>Coming uphill on the way home
>Sun in my face
>Reach an intersection
>Lights green, have been for a little while already, cars mostly cleared
>Car coming the other way wants to turn right
>We enter the intersection at the same time
>Car brakes suddenly to avoid collision
>Slams on the horn too
>As if any of this was somehow my fault
>Car drivers are fucking niggers
>mfw

The rate of car-bike disputes being the bike's fault is like... 1/100 or so.

You can say it's like 1/10 if you discount all the times that the dispute is just "car is behind bike on a narrow street, and car is impatient".
Car drivers are ALWAYS impatient.

@Zergling_man i usually have no problem with bikes, except the entitled asshole ones who think they're better and saving the planet with their 6000€ cargo or racing bike.

also a matter of time until i hit a boomer on an electric bike who is going way to fast.

@bonifartius I saw a video recently of a narrow (one-lane) country road with a bike track next to it, and two cyclists riding on the road, and a ute or smth driving down the bike track to pass them.
Both in the wrong, but I'd say car is slightly less in the wrong.

@bonifartius Point is, yeah, I am advocate of more bikes and less cars on the road, but on the condition that the bikes actually behave better than the cars.

@Zergling_man @bonifartius not a high bar. every car "safety feature" is antisocial and promotes reckless driving, from seatbelts to airbags to even the very fact that you're encased in a nigh-invulnerable metal chariot propelled by fire, weighing at least a couple tons.
the architecture of the cycle is, then, inherently prosocial, both because it privatizes risk to a fault, but also because cycling, as an act of exercise, promotes good health and masculine vigor.
and yet...

@HatkeshiatorTND @bonifartius Also the whole "you don't have to pay the government to be allowed to use it" thing.

@Zergling_man @bonifartius ideally, the state would not exist and licensure, if it even exists, would be local and private. i'm steelmanning cars as much as possible and they're still getting their ass kicked.
and yet...

@HatkeshiatorTND @Zergling_man i'm in enough of a shit stirring mood: why not have loicenses for riding bikes? the assholes in cars are kept in check by this somewhat and i'd love to see the seething over this.

that, or everyone gets to carry guns 8)

@bonifartius @Zergling_man remembering that time bongpigs tried to crawl into a normal brit's window because they suspected of him using his telly without a loicense

@bonifartius @HatkeshiatorTND >why not have loicenses for riding bikes?
On roads? Eh, sure. At least make them sit a road rules test. (Maybe driver's licence implies cycling licence, fun fact, down here, motorbike licence is separate but everything else is just a linear size scale.)

>the assholes in cars are kept in check by this somewhat
That's a very strong "somewhat"

>that, or everyone gets to carry guns 8)
Definitely this, regardless of anything else.

@HatkeshiatorTND @Zergling_man .. I don't even dislike bikes, i have a sturdy one made from steel. it's good, i like to use it. the arguments made by most bike people rely on "state exists". bike paths? yeah, taxes, likely from taxing fuel or cars. no loicense required for bikes? yeah, great, you approve of taking others freedom to drive a car just out of spite. fuel expensive? yeah, because it's 60% tax.

@HatkeshiatorTND @bonifartius @Zergling_man

@meeper @bonifartius @Zergling_man https://annihilation.social/notice/B6UBPWyedpI5ey4Lqq

@bonifartius @HatkeshiatorTND My arguments for riding are that I don't like looking for parking, paying for parking, paying for registration, paying for fuel or getting stuck in traffic jams. So about half "state exists".

Bike paths are mostly stupid.

@Zergling_man @HatkeshiatorTND asshole bike people place their bikes all over the place without cconsequence (or sperg out if there are). it actually would be nice to have them put the bike into designated areas. the paid car parking spaces are either done by the city and are just racketeering or done by companies which actually provide some value (covered, security guards). fuel is half value provided half racketeering.

@Zergling_man @HatkeshiatorTND i like bike paths because i don't have to look out all the time and cars don't have to look out all the time or go behind some mid 30s spandex dude going 37km/h

traffic jams suck, yes, but it's a "big city problem", the smallest problem big cities have imo ;)

@bonifartius @Zergling_man i can think of more pressing big city problems...

@Zergling_man @HatkeshiatorTND of course the spandex dude DOESN'T make room for overtaking, like you are supposed to do.

might be there are good spandex dudes but the majority seems to be insufferable assholes on midlife crisis fueled power trips.

@Zergling_man @HatkeshiatorTND i think tl;dr is that i'm tired of assholes no matter if in cars, on bikes or somewhere else.

@HatkeshiatorTND @Zergling_man DeArtemis and Sheik'la don't have a car nor a bike though.

@bonifartius @HatkeshiatorTND >it actually would be nice to have them put the bike into designated areas.
Probably they stay away from bike parking zones because they're always full of fucking smokers.

@Zergling_man @HatkeshiatorTND another problem of people acting shit.

@bonifartius @HatkeshiatorTND >i don't have to look out all the time and cars don't have to look out all the time
You kinda do though, since it's not just cars/bikes you have to worry about.
Expecting car drivers to actually pay attention to anything is pretty foolish though.

>37km/h
Eh, on a 50k flat road I'll still claim lane whenever I can't sit in the gutter because it's chock full of... What was it again...? Oh that's right... FUCKING PARKED CARS. That's one of those other big* city problems, honestly just ban street parking entirely.
There's only really one stretch of road around here that is both uphill and too narrow for two cars + a bike, and in that part, I jump off to the footpath at the latest opportunity. (Though it's often congested down to ~20k anyway, but that's still more than I can consistently manage up it.)

>traffic jams suck, yes, but it's a "big city problem", the smallest problem big cities have imo ;)
Yeah.

*Hobart has ~250k people but still manages to copy all the bad parts of capital city density, and none of the good parts, like a nerd scene that isn't full of faggots.

@bonifartius @HatkeshiatorTND >might be there are good spandex dudes
I don't think I've met any.

@Zergling_man @HatkeshiatorTND @bonifartius Boomers are demanding that the government put bikes behind licensing you know?

Electric bikes are already heavily restricted in many countries - with power limits that have legislation that seriously requires digital handcuffs - anything over the anemic power limits are considered an unregistered motorbike.

@bonifartius @HatkeshiatorTND @Zergling_man I can absolutely assure you that D'legolas and Sharkeshia drive a Nissan

@meeper @HatkeshiatorTND @bonifartius @Zergling_man And very soon all cars will be required to be connected to internet

@Suiseiseki @bonifartius @HatkeshiatorTND Ok now I'm against it.

@Pi_rat @bonifartius @meeper @HatkeshiatorTND That's what the 2nd amendment is for.

@Pi_rat @meeper @HatkeshiatorTND @Zergling_man @bonifartius

Use an AR15 to make the streets safe again, one dead driver at a time.

@sally @HatkeshiatorTND @Zergling_man @bonifartius @meeper

100%

@sally @Pi_rat @meeper @bonifartius @Zergling_man weird way to spell nigger but sure.

@HatkeshiatorTND @Pi_rat @meeper @bonifartius @Zergling_man

I don't need to dehumanize people to satisfy some abstract moral concept, if I feel like being cruel towards someone I despise or that it's an inconvenience to me I will.

@Suiseiseki @HatkeshiatorTND @Zergling_man boomers are the ones killing themselves with these things over here. turns out their brain can't process going faster than 10km/h anymore.

@Suiseiseki @HatkeshiatorTND @Zergling_man and alphas are killing themselves with these scooters.

(i'm in this everyone is stupid but me mood xD )