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Amnesty International literally not even knowing the most basic facts about the political groups they libel as "anti-rights" is quite incredible.

They seriously looked at a list of almost two dozen feminist and gay rights groups and said "yup, looks like right wing Christian conservatives to me"?

It's so stupid it boggles the mind. Once again I'm THIS close to becoming a conspiracy theorist and have to remind myself of Hanlon's Razor.
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@taylan
institutional & elite decay happens to every society after its prime. It's true that we're at full retard levels with the secular clergy atm but so was late rome
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@dagda Have you seen this? Apparently it's real, from 2024, though they changed it after backlash.

Taliban oppressing women for "identifying as a girl." Why didn't they just identify as a boy? blobcat-thonking
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@taylan
The Taliban hates this trick.
Tho devils advocate here: I think there even is a traditional (possibly pre-islamic) social function in afghanistan for women to assume male roles when they stay virgins. I don't know if the Taliban currently recognized that, I don't think so but i don't know tbh.
If it did it would be a real stupidity-smartness horseshoe moment
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@dagda That's kinda funny, but even then it would surely only be allowed if the girl's family (read father) approves of it. Not like she would have a say in it if the father decides to marry her off...

BTW are you sure you didn't confuse Afghan with Alban? blobcat-joy

Because the Albanian "sworn virgin" thing is kinda well documented, but from a quick web search I couldn't find anything about an Afghan third gender like that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkan_sworn_virgins
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@taylan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_posh
It exists in Afghanistan but only until puberty apparently

also the balkan article is hilarious:
>A sworn virgin is a traditional gender variant or third gender social role in certain Balkan cultures, consisting of people who are assigned female at birth but take a vow of chastity and live the rest of their lives socially recognized as men
>assigned female at birth
This is not the case, they are OBSERVED to be female, the "assigned gender at birth" ideology exists in the west only, and even here you need state repression and elite institutional capture to enforce it. This is literal woke colonialism. Defunding Wikipedia can't come soon enough
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkan_sworn_virgins
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@taylan @dagda It’s a thing in Afghanistan as well, but only so the girls can be used as child labour: once they get to marriageable age that’s it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_posh

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