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Maybe the issue is with putting romance on a pedestal? All the relationships I'm seeing among young cis ppl are negotiated first rather than romantic
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@Griffith it is (in the context of continental dating and marriage patterns) and I don't like it
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@kernow @Griffith
I believe in true romance (women with personality disorders)
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@kernow Why would anyone want a relationship with terms and conditions instead of romance/love?
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@WoodshopHandman access to affection and sex. You're really unusual for that matter, your thoughts on relationships are almost 1:1 with what the butch lesbians I know think
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@kernow “The Continental is the nigger of the world.” ~Winston Churchill
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@Griffith cheating is simply the french lifeway
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@kernow yes, you should check for compatibility at the beginning.
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Wife and I talked about marriage (albeit in a very flirtatious way) before we were officially dating

I wouldn’t say it was negotiated but we were both intentional from the start. I think successful dating can still be extraordinarily romantic, it just has to also be intentional

Negotiation works because it has intention, lust or chasing each other doesn’t work because there’s no intention, true romance has both the passion and the intention and thus truly works
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