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I think my most STEMcel take is that the punctuation belongs OUTSIDE the quotes and NEVER inside
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@scathach in most cases yes. but there are a few times where i can see it happening and appear more correct. for example, if i was to pose a question and wanted it entirely encapsulated in the sentence like "is it a good idea to microwave this?", then it makes sense for it to not be outside the quotes.
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@scathach logically i agree with you but putting the punctuation outside the quote just looks ugly in english.
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@scathach The conventions followed in written French would totally unnerve you:

"My wife died, said Mr. Bark, putting out the butt of his cigarette on the sidewalk with the heel of his shoe. It's been two months."

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@ryan @scathach
Wow, I just realised that Russian borrowed double angle quotation marks from French — not really surprising, a lot of things came from French.
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@m0xEE @ryan @scathach should not be spoken, but they are good at math cat_nodding
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@icedquinn @ryan @scathach
Ha-ha-ha, true! But I mean Russian language in particular — it borrows from French heavily. In early XIX century Russian was still in early stages so to say — there were a dozen of spoken dialects, no formalised rules, literature was practically non-existent. I believe Pushking is considered so influential not only for his literary output, but because he formalised the language. And as during and after Napoleanic wars Russian gentry was mostly speaking French, it was only natural to borrow from it.
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@scathach arguing about punctuation is culturally german

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@yew @scathach the difference between germs and anglos is that germs can agree on what punctuation is correct
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@snacks @scathach the only correct way is to touch grass and stop having autism moments over it

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@yew @scathach ok maybe. You,'re right?
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@snacks @yew @scathach sentence that makes you stumble while reading
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