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imagine windows GPU drivers so terrible people just start porting the linux drivers

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@mia i've also seen people use dxvk on windows because it does a better job at optimizing dx11 than the proprietary drivers
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@mia Having used Linux circa 2006, this is extremely funny to me.

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@xgranade if someone had told me “20 years from now, the company that owns ATi will have better linux drivers than nvidia, and they will be in mainline. also that company will have made both opengl and direct3d practically obsolete” i would not have believed it

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@mia @xgranade Thankfully I only experienced ATi after it got open-source drivers but yeah wouldn't have believed it either.
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@mia @xgranade Yeah, meanwhile after years of novidia (and a weird-ass SyS iGPU) on various unixes it felt kind of weird that only thing I had to do to use an ATi GPU while they still kept their awful reputation in terms of unix support is just installing it's mesa drivers with the firmware package.
(Which kind of convinced me to go with amdgpu afterwards)
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@lanodan @xgranade i don’t miss the “edit XF86Config, restart the X server and pray that it works to use the projector you just plugged into your laptop” days

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@mia @xgranade I'm so glad I haven't had to touch xorg.conf in ages.
(sauce: https://xkcd.com/963/ )
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@lanodan @xgranade i remember the dark ages of “download the 60 or so xf86 tarballs (it is highly modular software) and compile it all from source before you install nvidia’s drivers”

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@mia @xgranade
How does one feel pain of something they haven't experienced.

(Although, I got the experience of downloading tarballs at high-school for home computer because of wifi hotspots being usually at roughly 2-digits kilobytes speeds)
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@lanodan @xgranade i downloaded the tarballs, and it took days because i did it on my dad’s windows PC at 56k speeds, and transferred the files via floppy disks

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@mia @lanodan @xgranade I remember when they split up what was previously just a handful of packages into those 60 separate downloads and tried to sell it to us as an improvement. 🤬

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@dalias @mia @xgranade At least sometimes split tarballs can make sense, like I remember when Qt (4 I guess) was all in one gigantic source tarball, made me really glad range-request is a thing to resume the download but it would still take an annoyingly long amount of time to download on a crappy connection.
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@lanodan @mia @xgranade I'm all for separating things that were meaningfully independent and where you were previously stuck getting things you didn't want. But the xorg split of xf86 separated like every single header file to its own package with maybe 10k of content and 300k of boilerplate build infrastructure.

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@lanodan @mia @xgranade i have never in my life touched a xorg file
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@paula8 @mia @lanodan I am quite jealous, goodness.

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