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average "Just read the manual and you'd know the answer to your questions" forum user
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“you’re absolutely right! here’s the answer to your query” AI
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@cell with the death of stack overflow, we are losing an integral part of our humanity.
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@papush_ the manual has one paragraph about the service you’re having issues with and doesn't go into any detail

time to contact the original developer!!
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@lain @cell I remember in the 1990s being in a linux irc and asking a question and got "RTFM" and I said "there's no man page" and they kicked me
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@sun @cell and now your average local AI will give you the answer and add a nice nude picture as bonus
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@lain @cell i joined the gentoo forums in 2004 and there is an absolute shit ton of cringe posts from me at 17-18 years old trying to figure it out after going from caldera openlinux to freebsd. I read on forums gentoo was "bsd-like". back then gcc or similar compiled in 3 hours on a single thread single core. takes 8 hours on a ryzen 9 now
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@lain @cell I'd like to mention if you guys didnt know, the gentoo installation on my Thinkpad T495 I've had for like 6? years was the original gentoo installation. the one I posted about is the same installation. it's been through 2 desktops and a bunch of thinkpads. same dotfiles, same (now) xfce4 config. everything on it is the same as when I was young but it's up to date.
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@lain @cell the addition of systemd was the worst, because originally you had to mask systemd but you also had to mask it in packages that specifically requested it (including udev which, well, you know) and now they have precompiled binaries and i'm just like. trying to evaluate if its worth it masking *-bin too. webkit takes 29 hours to compile on a ryzen 7 3700u with 40GB ram. I don't want to do that 3 times a week but I also dont want rust or binary packages. why???????
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@lain @cell first file touched has a file date of 09/03/2004 m/d/y
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@lain
>gens what it thinks you look like
>complain it isn't your likeness
>you're absolutely right
>makes the pp smaller
No SO answer offers the same emotional rollercoaster.

@cell @sun
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@lain @cell sorry I just checked the first file touched by my uid is 9/7/2004
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@graf @lain @cell what command sequence did you run to determine that?
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@kybermace @cell @lain if you are running linux run this, modify for your needs, wnidows i dunno sorry retard

find ~ -not -path '*/\.*' -type f -printf '%T+ %p\n' 2>/dev/null | sort | head -n 20

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@kybermace @cell @lain 1996-01-30+21:31:41.0000000000

this is from when i was in school, 3 guesses as to what it is
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@graf @lain @cell
>back then gcc or similar compiled in 3 hours on a single thread single core. takes 8 hours on a ryzen 9 now
>webkit takes 29 hours to compile on a ryzen 7 3700u with 40GB ram.

How? I doubt that having PGO and LTO both enabled in gcc makes that much of a difference on a 4C/8T laptop CPU with 16GB ram.
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@graf @cell @lain idk, anime artwork of Sothis?

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@kybermace @cell @lain its corrupt but its a file that was titled BITCH and it just says BITCHBITCH I saved it to the floppy disk I was given in school and refused to use it. I graduated 6th grade with it
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@phnt @lain @cell you know, my thinkpad has been unplugged long enough I think I have a qtwebengine compile. I'll time it in the morning. bookmarking this
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@phnt @lain @cell 40gb ram with 16gb swap on a pci3 nvme tho
will update you when I start it
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@graf @cell @lain lel, that command keeps locating files that weren't mine, but came from tarballs and the like, I need to filter out a tonne of old cruft first.

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@kybermace @cell @lain if you were the last one to touch it, yeah. it's not the best
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@phnt @lain @cell actually ill go grab it and start it now, hold on
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@cell i just read the manual and it didn't tell me what happens in very obvious cases :-(
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@phnt @lain @cell qt5-15 is all masked by gentoo maintainers so I cant even properly compare. do you know why?

according to eix I have 5.15.18 installed, it's the only option and it's masked. I'm benig forced to unemerge qt. why? do you know?
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@graf @lain @cell Gentoo maintainers have been on a spree for the last year getting rid of Qt5 packages way too quickly. Qt5 has been completely masked for a month now. The new base package for Qt6 is qtbase instead of qtcore.

They even dropped KeepassXC into the bucket because of it and only provide a development snapshot of it.
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anime graf mays 🛰️🪐

Edited 18 days ago
@phnt @lain @cell yeah I was just reading it. I'm going to unmask it for my use case but you should also know poast runs an official mirror in case you need one in a pinch. rsync33.us.gentoo.org is poast

>edit: forgot the us.
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@phnt @lain @cell I'm gonna fuck around with it tomorrow. It's 6am here and I've got a woman to make happy and a buddy to usher into new birth year we will re-evaluate this in a couple days. ThinkPad and Razer blade for consideration
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