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@dyske >So. IQ tests do reinforce this unhealthy phenomenon, by partitioning it's participants into two groups (below/above 100).They are "certified" confirmation, that you're "better" than someone else.
Moreover I have yet to see a serious study where IQ is taken as a sole indicator of perfomance.
Again. IQ doesn't claim to be anything but a metric for pattern recognition. They're not "certified better" or "more performant". That's what you are claiming.
You do have a point in that people shouldn't view it as an "everything will go great" card, but that's why most kids who are tested at school don't really get their numbers told.
Moreover I have yet to see a serious study where IQ is taken as a sole indicator of perfomance.
Again. IQ doesn't claim to be anything but a metric for pattern recognition. They're not "certified better" or "more performant". That's what you are claiming.
You do have a point in that people shouldn't view it as an "everything will go great" card, but that's why most kids who are tested at school don't really get their numbers told.
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@toast @dyske Yeah okay that sounds like admittedly really stupid wording.
When I got tested though I was told that I shouldn't rely on it (as a metric of learning capacity) by just about everyone including their employees.
Something I'm really feeling now because my attention span is shit.
Again, it measures pattern recognition, by giving people patterns to recognise. I don't find that very complicated nor snakeoil. Future success? Not so much.
When I got tested though I was told that I shouldn't rely on it (as a metric of learning capacity) by just about everyone including their employees.
Something I'm really feeling now because my attention span is shit.
Again, it measures pattern recognition, by giving people patterns to recognise. I don't find that very complicated nor snakeoil. Future success? Not so much.
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@toast @dyske I understand that mensa's claim was pretty dumb and I wasn't aware of it, that much I didn't deny. Idk if you really need to show me any papers, I just said it was about measuring pattern recognition by giving people patterns to recognise. Doesn't get much more objective and rooted in data.
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@toast @dyske Pattern recognition "is" intelligence. Recognising patterns in things is what allows primates to use tools, adapt to situations, how quickly you may understand complex problems. I merely conceded that for a future of a person there are more important things than minor IQ differences, such as focus.
Hopefully you don't take it as a personal attack if I tell you I'm going to trust decades of cognitive research over your grudge towards the IQ scale.
Hopefully you don't take it as a personal attack if I tell you I'm going to trust decades of cognitive research over your grudge towards the IQ scale.
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@toast @dyske you haven't actually brought anything to the table asides from "here are the studies I don't like" How is that making any points?
I conceded that focus and discipline are more important than miniscule IQ differences, then you just made it bizzare lol.
I do believe you have no points to make.
I conceded that focus and discipline are more important than miniscule IQ differences, then you just made it bizzare lol.
I do believe you have no points to make.
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