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why are all UI toolkits so fucking terrible??
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@mja no im busy making something actually useful
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@methyltheobromine LITERALLY!! sometimes i just wanna make a button and not get a PhD on gtk theory
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@newt too c++ focused. im trying tcl/tk rn btw
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@methyltheobromine too tcl focused

tbh qml is the better part of qt. You can use it almost with any language that qt has bindings for without writing any c++.
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@methyltheobromine This is exactly the reason I push back on the "webshit" thing. Browsers make it actually pretty easy to make high quality UIs.
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@max_frost seems like electron but rust..
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@methyltheobromine yeah, like fine wine. In the sense that you get it out of the cellar once every couple of years for a special occasion and then suffer from the sulfur aftertaste for a few days, while feeling suleriour to everyone else and classy as fuck.
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@Moon I'd rather build somewhat memory efficient software
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@methyltheobromine I understand that but I think it proves that UI toolkits don't have to be total garbage
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@newt no seriously i just glue together some libraries and give it a UI, tcl seems fine for that. it's what normal people would use python for but i fucking hate python. i wanted to use luajit but good luck building gui with that
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@Moon @methyltheobromine then why the hell doesn't anybody actually do this? Web UI is just awful, regardless of whatever it runs on.
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@methyltheobromine oh.. you'll hate tcl soon too. Trust me.
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@methyltheobromine welp.. it's a very peculiar language. Imagine a kind of LISP, but with strings being the core data type instead of a cons pair.
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@Moon @methyltheobromine perhaps, but I'm yet to see an electron app with good ui. Because so far I've seen literally none.
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