What are you doing for a living?
Making drawings in power point that could be used in Wikipedia, but can’t because capitalism (the copyright is with my company)

@kaia@brotka.st Man bringt es den Leuten gerade erst bei... Das wird dann meistens auf der Tonspur kritisiert...

@Erpel kinda mind-boggling how many people seem to be having trouble with tht soldering; i’m almost wondering if it’s all just bad equipment because it’s really not hard

@mia@movsw.0x0.st Biggest problem is that most people just don't think about it and once established bad habits just carry on.

There is ofc a diffrent level of wuality needed in "I solder this pcb as a hobby" or "this pcb is used in a big industrial machine and should work well"

@aetios@sns.minovsky.space I can export the powerpoint easily if you need it in a better quality than just some screenshots

@aetios@sns.minovsky.space @mia@movsw.0x0.st
THT - Through Hole Technique
basically the wire thorugh a hole on the PCB

in contrast to this SMD
Surface Mounted Device - where the device is soldered directly on the surface of the PCB

@aetios@sns.minovsky.space @mia@movsw.0x0.st get one of those: https://www.conrad.de/de/p/kemo-electronic-abbiegevorrichtung-kemo-inhalt-1-st-425869.html

There are a little bit more quality ones (the plastic is way better) you can get for like 5 or 6€

@aetios @fial @Erpel i got the cheapest ersa soldering station. the tool is very light has and super flexible wires, and the tips are really good

i’ve used some much more expensive weller stuff during an internship and it wasn’t anywhere near that nice to use even with leaded solder

@fial @aetios @Erpel yeah i would have loved this even if i already have a station (because sometimes there’s stuff i need to solder on things i can’t move around so i have to go and get the whole station every time)

@aetios@sns.minovsky.space @mia@movsw.0x0.st @fial@ihatebeinga.live huh... can't remember of hearing of that device before...

Maybe something I can recommend to my trainees? 8They always want to know what to buy so they could solder at home)

@Erpel @aetios @fial yeah it’s good especially for smaller jobs that don’t need a lot of continuous heat

@Erpel @aetios @fial ersa i-con pico costs twice as much i think; i’d recommend that as a more “serious” option. but then it’s also a good idea to get some additional tips (hollow tip for soldering QFP parts, THT tip, maybe something for desoldering), so probably closer to €200 in total?

@aetios @Erpel @mia @fial
plus it can be served by a modern powerbank as was said (must be a modern one that supports fast charging though, had problems with one that didnt support it)

also the pinecel supports changing tips, which is a huge plus (so you can have different types of solder tips, or you can replace a solder tip that is becoming shit because of no proper care)

@Erpel @aetios @fial i was skeptical about the THT one, seemed like a pointless gimmick since it’s already really easy with the conical tip that comes with the station. but it’s actually really nice to have when you’re like, soldering 40 pins in a row. that’ll take you about as many seconds 🚀

@aetios @fial @Erpel yeah for sure. it’s something to consider for people learning electronics though

@kura @aetios @Erpel @fial if the pinecil had been a thing by the time i bought my station i definitely would have considered getting it instead, it’s a really good deal

@aetios@sns.minovsky.space @mia@movsw.0x0.st @fial@ihatebeinga.live trust me: the students I work with are having the financial space for that...

(they get 1127€ a month before taxes and social security stuff)

@mia @aetios @Erpel @fial the pinecel is based on the ts 100 (they do use the same tips) which came out 2017 or so.

attached is the ts101 (bottom, grey case - also the follow up model of the ts100) and the pinecel (top, clear case)

@kura @aetios @Erpel @fial yeah it was 2015 or 2016 when i bought that station…

@lucy @Erpel @aetios @fial i was getting by on €600-800 and still bought that station and a bunch of other stuff 🙃

really depends on individual circumstances…

@lucy @Erpel @aetios @fial (wasn’t living with my parents at the time but rent was cheap)

@lucy @icedquinn @Erpel @fial @aetios based; i didn’t even run away from home before 15 or 16

@icedquinn@blob.cat @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz @fial@ihatebeinga.live @mia@movsw.0x0.st @aetios@sns.minovsky.space We are talking about people starting around the age of 16/17 up to finished A-level in their early 20s.

Most of them are living with their parents, so the money is okay. (I am aware that 1100€ before tax isn't much money)

But even if you don't live at home, there are possibilities to get extra funding from the state by what's called "Berufsausbildungsbeihilfe (BAB)". Its also not much but helps a lot to get around. (ofc special rules aplies)

https://www.arbeitsagentur.de/bildung/ausbildung/berufsausbildungsbeihilfe-bab

@icedquinn @lucy @Erpel @fial @aetios i have not yet moved my speakers

@icedquinn @lucy @Erpel @fial @aetios tbh just the two i have in the basement collecting dust would take up way too much space in lucy’s apartment (they’re big full-range boxes, 15”)

@lucy@netzsphaere.xyz @mia@movsw.0x0.st @aetios@sns.minovsky.space @icedquinn@blob.cat @fial@ihatebeinga.live well basically, they only pay social security stuff and no taxes.
The limits for so called "midijobs" have been raised to 2000€ a month

@icedquinn @lucy @Erpel @fial @aetios but they need the money for the non-sentient creatures they like to keep at retirement homes, and the €17 billion in car subsidies

@icedquinn@blob.cat @mia@movsw.0x0.st @fial@ihatebeinga.live @aetios@sns.minovsky.space @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz Well.. your senat is basically a retirement home for dicks... so...

@hj @lucy @icedquinn @Erpel @fial @aetios no that’s part of a DIY kitchen hood i made for lucy!

@mia@movsw.0x0.st @hj@shigusegubu.club @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz ​​

@icedquinn @hj @fial @aetios @Erpel @lucy it’s not actually that loud! but at ~400m³/h (240 CFM?) it’s going to make some noise