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@Tony @yogthos seems like Manchester UK 😂
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@yogthos

This was right below in my feed.
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@Tony communists certainly aren't know for having tent cities while housing gets hoarded by a handful of rich fucks 🤡

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@Tony @yogthos
If you’ve ever flown over America, you can make 15 minute cities ANYWHERE.
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@Tony @yogthos

Kulak was the term which was used to describe peasants who owned over 3 ha of land towards the end of the Russian Empire you absolute radish.
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@Tony @yogthos hey these apartments are cozy
other criticisms valid
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@Tony @yogthos
NEWS FLASH: women want too be chained too radiators.
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@Tony @yogthos or is the first one xi jinping's house nvm i thought the russians were being mongoloid freaks again
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@Tony @yogthos did you drink too much of that NAFO koolaid
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@Tony @yogthos oh ok feeding people to dogs is really funny though so north korea's kinda based
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@Tony @yogthos why would you do that
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@Tony @yogthos north korea is juche though not communist
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@Tony @yogthos i live in what you describe as a third world dictatorship with breadlines and i'm honestly not seeing any of that with my own eyes
this is just like when slavaboos would think we all squat and say cheeki breeki and listen to hardbass except now the other side are unbearable faggots
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@Tony @yogthos i wish for the great replacement to be all about replacing nafo fart huffers with slavaboos again, i genuinely miss those bastards in retrospect
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@Tony @yogthos >My beef is with westerners thinking they will get more rights and their faggotry will be accepted in that sort of regime
oh trust me that WILL happen, and to be honest it is happening, you forget that anything can be perverted if the people at helm are perverts, sure they might quote marx and lenin and stalin and che guevara and others, but they're not for the people, they're just for the power fantasy of mass executing "bigots"
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@Tony @yogthos always has been, never trust anyone who always goes to support the underdog in every situation, those types are doing it specifically to take advantage of the underdog, that's how every color revolution starts too
i just want the political shit to die out already, i'm so fucking tired of armchair generals and couch politicians trying to compensate for their worthlessness by shitting up the internets with their sperging, niggers never even knew ukraine was a seperate country (and they were right in essence) before 2022, and then they condemn an entire nation just because the media tells them to
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@Tony @yogthos
The cool thing about when jews wreck your economy is when the fat chicks starve and become nice looking.
Thanks jews
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@tamamizu @Tony @yogthos juche is built atop from leninism though and retards use communism to refer to socialism
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@maija @Tony @yogthos juche is a distinct ideology, the kim family said so and they've been getting their money up so
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@tamamizu @Tony @yogthos its distinct but derived
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@maija @Tony @yogthos yeah definitely derivative schlock, we should probably have someone executed for that
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@Tony @tamamizu @yogthos socialism, as you refer to as communism, has quickly and greatly increased the life expectancy and quality of life of pretty much every notable country it was introduced to, of billions of people, most of which were totally ruined being belief impoverished backwaters just prior
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@tamamizu @Tony @yogthos i think juche is good though :) 👍
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@maija @Tony @yogthos yay, man is the master of his own destiny
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@tamamizu @Tony @yogthos lets be ruggedly independent in our nation without enough usable farmland and get sanctioned by the great sanction to keep us in famine yay!
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@tamamizu @Tony @yogthos *great satan
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@maija @Tony @yogthos on the bright side at least everyone has incentive to lose weight,,, gyate_sakuya_smile
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@tamamizu @Tony @yogthos i would love it there t. anorexic
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@Tony @tamamizu @yogthos Putin isn’t a communist
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@tamamizu @Tony @yogthos hot wanna make out while rubbing our ribcages together?
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@Tony @tamamizu @yogthos you say that about everyone i hit on but you
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@Tony @tamamizu @yogthos yeah but it’s not hypocritical for a general authoritarian leader to have a massive house. You can say that for communism given the ideological doctrine sure but not authoritarian generally.
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@Tony @tamamizu @yogthos i know u love trannies
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@maija @Tony @yogthos our,,, ribcages? sure,,,, vanillablush 👉 👈
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@maija @Tony @yogthos sorry i heard ribcage and all the blood rushed to my head i can't see anymore
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@Tony@clew.lol yeah homelessness only happens in liberal areas after all!

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@anemone @Tony I’m just saying it’s possible to cherry pick anywhere really. Some places may look as shit as communist countries in the west, especially with a lot of the more recent policies, but the kinds of great places you get in the west/anglosphere are only possible due to those virtues
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@arcana@fedi.layer02.net @Tony@clew.lol as this thread demonstrated there are nice looking places in communist countries as well lol

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@anemone @Tony which photos? None of them looked good to me.

Nature sure, and of course things that came before their communism or once they liberalised such as Red China, though often in a public rather than personal capacity.

The main issue for me is that inequality is a desirable and natural thing. Not all are born or remain equal, and a system that tries to go against that is inherently inhuman.
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@tamamizu @Tony @yogthos y-yeah,,, haha niceblush
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@Tony @anemone well exactly. It is better to have an opportunity for 1% to excel than for 100% to have basic needs met. Life is an adventure not a zoo.

Of course, the US is far from an actual free market system and a lot the suffering and poverty is caused by government interference in the free market. Even if it was though, the existence of poverty isn’t a sign of the system failing, it’s a sign of people failing to take the correct initiative which is always going to exist. Success is taken not given.

While pioneers were building the modern world these past few centuries, others were choosing to mooch about doing little of value. Their choice of course, and that’s a good thing, but they should not expect equal outcomes for that.
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@anemone @Tony I’m merely reflecting the reality of the universe as it has been throughout most of history and is heading back that way again as we see in political results and choices around the world
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@Tony @anemone this is in part what places like Red China do but in much of the west it’s really not worth it anyway.

Technological advancements allow for a single man and a few assistants to run a farm that would have taken thousands of laborers centuries ago, and factories too have automated much of the most menial work.

If it’s so menial that it’s work for slaves of some kind, it’s pretty much been automated away at this point or will be in the next ten years especially with the massive investment in robotics
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@anemone @Tony don’t know who that is and don’t care
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@Tony @anemone the world ultimately has an artificially high and subsidized population far beyond what we should actually be supporting. The future is a world with a far higher quality but lower quantity of humans
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@arcana @Tony @anemone I looked into Beijing ending poverty and as far as I can tell it's legitimate, not tricks. Well, if you are hopelessly addicted to drugs they just jail you, but that wasn't most people.
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@arcana @Tony @anemone The USA should look at what they did but we'd never do it anyway whatever it is.
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@Tony@clew.lol I've made it pretty clear that while I don't necessarily support "prison" per se, for drug addicts I do support mandatory treatment

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@Tony @anemone >We have it better than any human in history has ever had it and we should be thankful for it

I disagree here really, a lot of modern things harm people quite actively. Microplastics, digital slop turning their brain to mush, surveillance state, extremely high taxes, regulations

The late 17th to mid 18th century was the peak of humanity in my opinion, but I do think that things can be done to make the future bright, but it’s going to be quite a bumpy ride
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@Tony@clew.lol I don't think china is some perfect society and a lot of people don't even consider them communist but they have certainly done some things the rest of the world should take note of

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@sun @Tony @anemone homeless is the natural state of animals who don’t build a home for themselves. The solution to it is to deregulate people just making a home for themselves, population decrease lowering property values, and homesteading encouragement
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@Tony @anemone @sun There aren’t tent cities in the UK either, it’s illegal to wild camp including in and especially in cities
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@sun @Tony @anemone also I think a lot of modern values directly contribute to homelessness.

Billionaires pulling the “hey guys look, I’m just the same as you” wearing their polo shirts and living in apartments rather than massive palaces and works of art that require 10,000s of people in labor and domestic service is a major lack of job creation and housing.

In the UK, there are still couple jobs available, a nanny and groundskeeper combo on the estates of nobility, with a home provided on the grounds. Things like this need to come back and would provide great work and residential options to those in need
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@Tony @anemone @arcana Communism is good for those who HATE thinking and want to be cuddled like infants tho. So I suggest we ship over all the black people over to Siberia and institute a new Socialist regime over there.
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@arcana@fedi.layer02.net @Tony@clew.lol @sun@shitposter.world UK supposedly has a higher per capital homeless rate than the US, they must just be better hidden. I know Japan has a habit of pushing all its homeless outside urban areas so you just end up with encampments out under freeways in the middle of nowhere

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@arcana@fedi.layer02.net @sun@shitposter.world @Tony@clew.lol I mean some of them do do that there's lots of gated communities in the US. techbros just like living in the valley

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@anemone @Tony @sun oh sure yes, and that’s dealing with it far better from a societal perspective. They definitely don’t camp near motorways in the U.K., nor in the forests and open land as much of it is owned by either farmers or the military who would kick them off.

I think it’s mostly dealt with via private companies and charities
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@anemone @Tony @sun oh yes, though it’s definitely not to the same degree, the gated community homes are usually just big detached houses from what I’ve seen, not palaces that require 100 staff just to keep the lights on
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@anemone @Tony @sun they definitely don’t have some random homeless encampments in the countryside, if you’ve ever met a middle class English woman, you’d know they wouldn’t last 5 minutes doing that.

shelter.org.uk, homeless.org.uk, and crisis.org.uk seem to give them advice, temporary accommodation, etc.
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@arcana@fedi.layer02.net @Tony@clew.lol @sun@shitposter.world automation + relying on contractors/under the table immigrants to save a buck mostly

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@anemone @Tony @sun yes, it seems that way. A big issue is the lack of noblesse oblige but that’s what happens when most of your elites aren’t actually nobles I suppose. A lower quality of elite leads to a lower quality of world for everybody
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@arcana @Tony @anemone i don't know but it appears they weren't shipped awaay or jailed. i know they built a ton of housing. i think part is culturally there are just far less violent criminal homeless in china
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@anemone @Tony @arcana merchants are just one social tier above actors
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@anemone @Tony @sun I agree, but the current economic system is very warped and a frankensystem.

The capitalism of the 1920s brought us model villages, and built great skyscrapers at a fraction of the modern cost. The modern system being more regulated than ever does away with that
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@sun @Tony @anemone merchants are the middle class yes. The rise of the middle class did cause problems as they sought to create a rift between the upper and lower classes and exploit it for their own profit

Never forget it was the merchants and middle classes responsible for the French Revolution and the Parliamentarian uprising of the 17th century
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@yogthos yea that's right. commies get out or we're calling HR. and try coming up with something original next time
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@arcana @Tony @anemone we peaked when we stopped drinking out of leaden chalices
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@arcana @Tony @anemone
rows of soulless copipe doll houses filled with scary old people who like living in frozen wastelands and call the police when you walk through the neighbourhood
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@ageha @Tony @anemone they’re very pleasant places actually, I’ve been to each one of these places in person. Lovely places, friendly people. I’m sorry that you feel the way you do
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walk around these kinda nice places as younger person with no shoes and visibly repaired and fraying ill-fitting thrift store clothes becomes quite different experience
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@Tony @tamamizu @yogthos of course communism does. have you even read marx/ no country is ever been communist tho. they are all socialist
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@Tony @tamamizu @yogthos no idiot. communism is not like that at all. you havent read marx
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@Tony @tamamizu @yogthos communism has no ruling class. the only way its possible is with a change in technology so every man can produce the enrgy he needs
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@Tony @tamamizu @yogthos if you read marx. communism is like a goal. that has never been achieved. where life is good for everyone. ok . but its only a goal and never been done. any "communist" country is only socialist trying to get better but not communist yet no way
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@Tony @tamamizu @yogthos any country that claims to already have communism are liars
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@Tony @tamamizu @yogthos rich niggas are assholes if they even think about how rich they are they do not need that money and should use it on the benefit of everyone but they dont they buy crap
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@Tony @tamamizu @yogthos niggas like elon musk and other billionaires will never spend a billion dollars on themselv but still hoard more billions
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@Tony @tamamizu @yogthos yes his money is used on crap nobody needs like spacex. do somethign useful for people
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@Tony @tamamizu @yogthos going to mars is worthless we know nothign is there
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@Tony @tamamizu @yogthos have they not done it already and i dont care
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@Tony @tamamizu @yogthos go somewhere interesting in space like ceres not mars
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@Tony @eris @tamamizu @yogthos Consider: do you want to read a guy who never worked a day in his life and couldn't even mantain a sleep schedule, talking about how work should be?

NEET manga is a better expenditure of your time.
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@Tony @eris @tamamizu @yogthos Fair, but you will feel like you wasted your time when you're done.
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CEOs and BODs all set dates to sell, well in advance. Many times it revolves around when stock options are exercised, that way there is no panic selling. When they buy/sell on the open market is when people pay attention to what may be going on.
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@Tony @eris @tamamizu @yogthos it's basically the most retarded shit you'll ever read and the reason only pathetic retarded teenager furries or childless old men ever pick it up is because they're mentally retarded husks of humanity that dont think.
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@Tony @eris @tamamizu @yogthos the entire thing with communism is it's basically like a religion. It's to keep people away from separate wealths so that no one is tempted by greed but surprise surprise *especially* in communist systems that take and "redistribute" wealth their people suffer while somehow, miraculously, the elite folk only notice riots at their doorstep.
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@Tony @eris @tamamizu @yogthos it is nicer to say "i read your shit and it's terrible" instead of "i have prejudice because i hate the people that like it"

if your ideology has to start with "and if everyone got along and had common sense [...]" to work then it will not.. work.. obviously.
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@f0x @Tony @tamamizu @yogthos you see marx wasnt realy incorrect but he misunderstood that socialism was needed but actualy we need national socialism before communism
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@Tony @f0x @tamamizu @yogthos thats why i say nothign good will happen until new technology where every man can produce all the power he needs
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@f0x @Tony @eris @tamamizu @yogthos

Arguments with commies is wasted breath, they're subhuman. Use guns.
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