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i hate faggots
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@krankheit i hate straggots
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@lucy i wouldnt hate straggots so much if i wasnt also into men like i dont wanna be fucking gay thats fucking gay
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@krankheit @lucy do you think that a woman being into a guy is somehow gay
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@lucy god i fucking wishh thatd fix me nah im just freaking out a lil this happens sometimes
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@elementals @lucy even if its straight in some interpretation its still gay in the derogatory sense of gay
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@krankheit @lucy i think you need to have more gay sex (with girls)
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@elementals @lucy i was hoping you wouldnt notice i didnt really have one.. uh im coming up with nothing but quitter talk and stuff that doesnt apply considering the context
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@krankheit @lucy you lost the argument. you must now submit to gay sex (female)
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@krankheit aren't you german or some shit? plenty of lesbians around
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@elementals haha no im amerikkkan regretfully in the midwest and i was talking about how im male not the difficulty of it, i told you i discarded the quitter talk
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@krankheit really wish trannies would stop being transmisogynistic
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@elementals i dont see how its transmisogynistic to say im male
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@krankheit are you a trans woman? i'll give you a hint: if you haven't transitioned yet, the answer is "yes". if you're ugly, the answer is "yes". trans women aren't men, and aren't male in any meaningful way
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@elementals trans women are literally definitionally male if i were female i wouldnt have to be transitioning
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@krankheit seriously? brainworms? you know that a blanket statement like this isn't true.
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@elementals is being a realist about sex really a brainworm
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@krankheit you know you're just trying to rationalize transmisogyny, which you ought to consider not posting on a transfeminist instance.

is it realistic to call my fully estrogenized body, with barely an ounce of testosterone in it, male? are my tits male? maybe not, but definitely my gonads and genitals, right? well i don't have those. maybe if you were really motivated to deligitimize the womanhood of trans women you might be able to argue that i'm not female, but there's no arguing i'm male.

furthermore, even if you went through none of that, you having sex with a man wouldn't be "gay", it'd be "cringe" (i.e. "straight")
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@elementals i still really dont think acknowledging the fact that im male is transmisogynistic and its sensical enough to think of a male woman (why would a trans womans maleness get in the way. like again thats the whole thing to get over in the first place) but im sort of just confused and i dont really want to upset you anymore idk
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@elementals @krankheit honestly if i went and called myself male because of some retarded definition people would give me weird looks and think i’m joking

it doesn’t work that way

“oh but mia you pass”
doesn’t matter if moids think i look like fuckable meat. point still stands. trans women are not male in any meaningful way and it makes no sense to think of them like that.

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@mia @krankheit correct + based

i was engaging with the substance of the "sex realism" delusion in order to show how uncritically idiotic it is
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@krankheit why do you feel the need to hold onto this transmisogynistic opinion?
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@anemone @elementals @krankheit also i could be cis and still not give birth, either by choice or for medical reasons, so what even is the point of calling myself “male”, if it isn’t just fear of getting trans panic’d

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@mia@movsw.0x0.st @elementals@social.xenofem.me @krankheit@social.xenofem.me it can be useful in a medical context but other than that I don’t think it’s very important

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@anemone @mia @krankheit trans womens' bodies, after E, are much more female than male, on balance. pre-op, it might as well just be an ordinary female body. with cock & balls. the term "male" is medically misleading
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@elementals @anemone @krankheit which otoh decreases your chances of getting actual treatment because the majority of male doctors is misogynistic as fuck and there’s the whole gender data gap in medicine too

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@mia @anemone @krankheit you'll never be perceived as "male". it'll be either "female" or "faggot pervert". i know which i'd prefer
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@anemone @mia @krankheit "good news doctor, my prostate is reachable through my surgically constructed vagina, much easier to examine than what the fellas have to deal with" like it's actually so easy not to call yourself "male" when you're not male idk what all these trannies are struggling with
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