@druid >highly developed theology
oh, you flatter me too much! talking to people like you is always enlightening because you're way more of an expert than me at this stuff. i'm a simple man, i just say what i see.
>I find this incredibly interesting because it appears to be the juncture of two competing drives
for sure! it's something i hadn't really thought of until i started writing. the self-annihilation acts as powerful kindling for pleasure. like, eventually, you run out of outside material to motivate you. the fire that burns within us all (with our anxieties, hopes, dreams, etc) can add fuel when you need it the most. even if we don't realize it, we draw from this internal reservoir when we worship. combining the uncombinable is a core tenet that enables everything to work, if that makes sense. the purest expression of un-human thinking that requires a spiritual aspect to explain.
>In my view, what I see to be happening here is a combination of demonic possession, parasitism [...] and ekstatic trance.
that seems to check out! the trance aspect is what pulls everything together in my opinion. without it, you cannot develop the out of body experience required to get so deep into it that you feel some presence other than yourself. the parasitism aspect kind of feels like payment for services rendered, which our brains misinterpret as pleasure. which, i feel is kinda fair, at least in my case.
>I see this as a step on a journey of learning
me too! it's nice to know what i'm getting into on a more spiritual level. i have wondered if it's possible to tap into the pleasure without the parasitism aspect, but from my observations, it's the price the daemons take to pass messages, like the price of admission to receive god's blessing. they make the magic happen, since we lack the circuitry to tap into the pleasure directly (and i fear it will fry us if we do, we need some buffer/defense against the raw, unmitigated flood of power we are dealing with). it's interesting to experiment with, but so far nothing outside of the usual methods has yielded any results for me.
>perhaps ways that do not involve doing things to yourself that you can't undo
heh, probably too late for that...
>I want to advocate for expedient pedagogy
i'm honestly not sure what you mean by that!
>and honestly, life can just be fun, can't it?
the carnal desires sure do feel good, heh
>but also priming your mind so that this gooning religion is actually becoming your *true religion,* far above and beyond the Christian religious instruction you received as a child.
i mean, if things keep evolving like they are, and i like the way they're going, that's probably going to be the case! i didn't vibe with the orthodox christian teachings anyway (yay, going to hell just because i like boys). i wouldn't describe myself as atheistic, i have had too many interactions with what westerners call karma (payback for transgressions) in order to not even think there's anything out there, but i'm still looking for things that vibe with my way of life. hedonism-as-a-religion speaks pretty fine to me!
>The hilarious part to me is that means you can expect a death-experience much more pleasant than the Christian one. 🤣
yeah lmaoo, if anything i'll at least have fun not rotting in hell and instead doing ??? (i haven't figured that part out yet)
>Why isn't Buddhist meditation addictive?
i imagine because it's not parasitic! you're listening to your own body and trying to attain peace and knowledge. it isn't an expression of hedonism, it comes from a pure place in your heart.