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arcana@layer02.net
arcana@layer02.net
I think ultimately a lot of people on here would benefit from patrons in the traditional sense. Just some aristocrat who funds them and gives them accommodation to play about with their special interest.
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nemesis@layer02.net
nemesis@layer02.net
@arcana rich people then: whoa this guy has an idea about how lightning bolts work? let's throw money at him!
rich people now: you mean if I spend $100k on this NFT, there's a chance I'll get to sell it for $200k later? let's throw money at that!
rich people now: you mean if I spend $100k on this NFT, there's a chance I'll get to sell it for $200k later? let's throw money at that!
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Listens to Baroque while coding murder.exe 
newt@stereophonic.space
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mia (developer mode)
mia@shrimptest.0x0.st@arcana i’ve been saying this
investors used to be cool
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mia (developer mode)
mia@shrimptest.0x0.st@arcana but to be honest i’d be happy if the state and other landlords didn’t pull the money out of the pockets of people who already can’t support themselves
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@arcana yeah but you usually had to be talented to get a patron
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@arcana I have a hard time imagining a Hapsburg emperor in Vienna patronizing someone drawing anime catgirls talented as they may be.
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arcana@layer02.net
arcana@layer02.net
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Listens to Baroque while coding murder.exe
newt@stereophonic.space
Edited 9 months ago
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newt@stereophonic.space
@yomiel @arcana @nemesis also, consider this. You're a rich guy, you find some autist that does interesting stuff. How do you legally give him money? You just can't wire him $10k every month, because tax authorities and other pests will quickly get all over you (and him). And God forbid he's from another country or an immigrant, the shit will escalate quickly in this case.
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arcana@layer02.net
arcana@layer02.net
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@arcana@fedi.layer02.net they would benefit a lot if they CLEANED THEIR ROOM
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newt@stereophonic.space
@sim @arcana @nemesis @yomiel Patreon takes 30% cut. Then the other 70% is a subject for taxation, leaving something like 50% or less from the original sum. Also, the artist would still have to run a kind of business, do accounting, etc. You can't just receive money and do whatever you want with it.
Honestly, it's just easier to deal with cash and crypto at this point.
Honestly, it's just easier to deal with cash and crypto at this point.
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mia (developer mode)
mia@shrimptest.0x0.st
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87ytO93NfgzyEthiHPvD@misskey.bubbletea.dev
87ytO93NfgzyEthiHPvD@misskey.bubbletea.dev@newt@stereophonic.space @nemesis@fedi.layer02.net @arcana@fedi.layer02.net me typing dogshit on hacernews so some bored guy from ycombinators gives me a hand(job)
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87ytO93NfgzyEthiHPvD@misskey.bubbletea.dev
87ytO93NfgzyEthiHPvD@misskey.bubbletea.dev@arcana@fedi.layer02.net we already have nlnet and shit
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arcana@layer02.net
arcana@layer02.net
@87ytO93NfgzyEthiHPvD don’t really think that’s entirely what I’m pointing at but good that it exists
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nemesis@layer02.net
nemesis@layer02.net
@87ytO93NfgzyEthiHPvD @arcana nlnet is cool but it invests in projects, not people
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87ytO93NfgzyEthiHPvD@misskey.bubbletea.dev
87ytO93NfgzyEthiHPvD@misskey.bubbletea.dev@nemesis@fedi.layer02.net @arcana@fedi.layer02.net institutions cultivate people better probably seems pointless to patron directly rather than diffuse contribute to those structures directly imo
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johnny peligro
mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
@arcana unironically would love this. Dont have much skills, but I could showcase the cool stuff I've done.
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@arcana that's supposed to be your parents. at least for some time before moving on from studies and getting a job
the reality tho is that being able to afford that is a privilege
the reality tho is that being able to afford that is a privilege
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johnny peligro
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nemesis@layer02.net
nemesis@layer02.net
@87ytO93NfgzyEthiHPvD @arcana ehh I think bounding creativity via institutions limits people's potential. I feel like theres a lot of people who would be worth investing in, but for whom it is hard to predict in advance what they would end up achieving with that investment
there's definitely a place for funding projects independently of the people working on them. but there is also a place for the reverse, too
there's definitely a place for funding projects independently of the people working on them. but there is also a place for the reverse, too
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87ytO93NfgzyEthiHPvD@misskey.bubbletea.dev
87ytO93NfgzyEthiHPvD@misskey.bubbletea.dev@nemesis@fedi.layer02.net @arcana@fedi.layer02.net both dont really conflict with eachother so idrk why well to do people do that then. unless they do it but we dont really recognize it as patronage lol
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Hidden☸️☯️
hidden@new.asbestos.cafe
@arcana This kind of thing is very common in SF/NY thielite type circles and I know a lot of people in situations like this but the people with money are always quite dumb and they give all their money to 115 iq grifters and it PISSES ME OFF
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