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Fascinating how a lot of web developers seem to be under the impression that building web apps without a frontend framework is like programming in assembly

Like woah what world do you people live on??
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@scathach they probably think C is low-level
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@lucy @scathach they think rawdogging javascript is something crazy only library authors do and no mere mortal should ever attempt

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@mia @lucy Tbf, no mere mortal should ever write JS of any kind to begin with
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