Something that I always think, will this really kill it? I can figure that people will just accept it in the end if it all goes thru as they planned it. I know I would end up putting my ID to enter a porn page given that I don't really feel any annoyance with that.

@mischievoustomato T. Mato, license to goon

@arcana "gooned, not jelqed"

@mischievoustomato 90% of people leave instead of ID, according to internal research (biased but sure.) i can say this matches my own behavior where if i see a face scan prompt or some sketchy discord mod ask for a photo ID i just leave.

@icedquinn how many will leave and come back in the end? That happened with le "omg X is finished everyone is moving to the fediverse" where in the end most people went back to X. Would you really leave and never go back online again?

@mischievoustomato > most people went back to X

doubt

@icedquinn It was reported like that, I can view it as true given that many from here did go back to X or stayed on discord.

@mischievoustomato @icedquinn the fediverse was never really the alternative to Twitter. The alternative has always just been not having social media.

@Mamako @icedquinn yeah i gotta have twitter or fedi

@Mamako @mischievoustomato they went to bluesky.

i don't know why bluesky is a success. it looks astroturfed to me. dorsey bailed on it too.

@icedquinn i think @PurpCat @Pawlicker might now @sendpaws

@icedquinn @Mamako @mischievoustomato
>i don't know why bluesky is a success.
Because it's just like Twitter before Musk bought it. And that's what people that left Twitter wanted. Fediverse is too different from Twitter even on the most normie Mastodon instances.

@mischievoustomato @icedquinn I never have had a traditional social media presence (Facebook, Twitter, etc). I only made a fedi account recently. So thinking that you couldn’t exist without social media is kind of strange to me.

@Mamako @icedquinn ok
i had facebook ages ago, then i made a twitter, was fun, got banned, now on fedi

@Mamako @mischievoustomato i closed my facebook a long time ago. i let the twitter account rot (it might still exist under my old name.)

i walked away from fedi for a couple days and nobody noticed and i wrote more business ideas in a journal

@mischievoustomato The internet has been dead for years, this is just stabbing its bloated, putrid corpse

@mischievoustomato @icedquinn I just don’t see the appeal outside of shitposting.

@Mamako @icedquinn this is the only social space I have. IRL is boring

@Mamako @mischievoustomato we have blobcats

venture crapital sky doesn't

@mischievoustomato no, things will just get worse forever.

@pettanko ding ding ding

@icedquinn @Mamako most of us arent popular enough to be missed, lol, dont think too highly of yourself

@scathach what does this even mean? I am using it just fine.

@mischievoustomato Hot take: The internet is already dead.

I don't use it for anything else than doing my job, browsing Fedi when I'm bored and being subscribed to like 50 channels on Youtube, 95% of which I rarely watch anyway. The self-hosting hobby is what's keeping it alive for me along with few fedifrens.

@icedquinn @Mamako i dont really use the blobcats

@mischievoustomato @icedquinn Have you tried picking up some hobbies besides gooning?

@Mamako @icedquinn no, i dont care about other stuff besides games, computer, anime

@icedquinn @Mamako @mischievoustomato Neither even have emoji reactions, which is why when you open a random popular Tweet, half of the replies are like this: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@phnt ok what does it "being dead" mean? I use it similarly, browsing, youtube, some computer stuff, 4chan/fedi/reddit. How is it dead?

@mischievoustomato @icedquinn there are games that combine other hobbies…

@Mamako @icedquinn no money or time for that, plus not really interested in dealing with other people much beyond uni shit

@phnt @Mamako @mischievoustomato

pleroma: catblobs
discord: catblobs (with nitro)
boobsky: no catblobs
elon's porn site: no catblobs

@mischievoustomato @phnt internet has become a lifeless machine of advertising agencies of various sizes "dirtying" the internet top to bottom, search results for any subject show this.

@mischievoustomato It's dead in the meaning that aside from very few small groups there's nothing going on. It's all garbage on R*ddit nobody sane wants to read, 4chan bait posting and whenever you want to search for something technical, you get 150 AI generate slop sites that don't even attempt to answer the question you have. A large portion of the whole network is completely useless.

@scarecrow @phnt google more or less works fine for me but i do use an adblocker. IDK I don't really feel what you guys say.

@icedquinn @Mamako @mischievoustomato bluesky is having a serious issue where despite new users post volume is down. this post was met with the community crashing out and saying NO CHILD ITS DOING WELL SDKAJLASDJKL:ASDJKL

@phnt @Mamako @mischievoustomato anyway its not about the kids. whenever a politician says anything is to protect kids just kill them immediately thats a fascist.

"oh we need more power we need to spy on more shit its not to progress world ID nobody wants its for MUH KIDS HONEST" meanwhile two arrests no client list.

@mischievoustomato @phnt

@phnt > A large portion of the whole network is completely useless.
so the internet has been dead forever? You are just branding stuff you dont like as worthless so it might as well be dead since 2005.
It's going on fine.

@scarecrow @phnt and?

@mischievoustomato @icedquinn sounds like a skill issue

@Mamako @icedquinn probably, not that i mind

@mischievoustomato @phnt its all sponsored content, listicles, and brands, they are all essentially worded the same and are meaningless

@mischievoustomato It is not about porn page or whatever but you whole life's privacy.. saw a few of these re marques about porn sites related to Vigilance of State.. They know bout ya porn.

@zer0unplanned i dont do much to protect muh privacy. They probably already know a lot. It doesn't affect my day to day life, so... why should I care?

@mischievoustomato Have you lived through the early 10's of Youtube, scene girls era and forums era,... I'm not branding it as useless, it _is_ useless. Just look at what people mindlessly scroll through on their $insert_tiktok_clone feeds. Or at what people watch on YouTube. There's nothing interesting going on. It's all slop made to either sell you something or catch your attention for 5 seconds.

@mischievoustomato @phnt aka no fucking life in it, its dead captain

@scarecrow @phnt they are noise sure I guess, but well, that's a natural development given the internet grew. I'd just use the wikihow link anyway

@mischievoustomato @scarecrow
>wikihow
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@mischievoustomato @phnt its largely noise now, meaningless noise outweighs information, and now information isnt even being put in accessible places, its being scattered through advertisements and proprietary chat programs

@mischievoustomato lmao

@mischievoustomato Anemone could be your Moneypenny

@phnt @mischievoustomato everything is underground on Discord groups now, away from the surface net like a gated community.

@mischievoustomato Johnny Mato in Die Now, or Dilator

@phnt @mischievoustomato in a short while we'll all be back to talking on irc and modern bbs like the underground of the 80s. Hell, dead internet is one thing but also the splintering effect of nation states making their own laws governing it's use is gonna be a nightmare.


looking at you UK

@ins0mniak @mischievoustomato
>looking at you UK
Looking at everyone. Every state is doing it now in the west. Soon Japan will have a less fucked version of the Internet than US. At least I didn't see anything about Japan trying to introduce ID verification and alike (probably because they are mostly still stuck in the 90's with computers).

@phnt Have you lived through the early 10's of Youtube, scene girls era and forums era,... I'm not branding it as useless, it _is_ useless.

early 10s and 10s of youtube and a small bit of forums. We can consider the youtube part "useless" in the same way you consider tiktok useless. The forums (which could be called similar to 4chan and reddit) are as useful as both of those. I have gotten good stuff/knowledge from both 4chan's /g/ and reddit.

> $insert_tiktok_clone feeds. Or at what people watch on YouTube. There's nothing interesting going on. It's all slop made to either sell you something or catch your attention for 5 seconds.

Same could be said of youtube back then.

@mischievoustomato @zer0unplanned same opinion. I use ddg and linux, but i still use google sometimes as well as windows and macos.

they got my info already. as long as i dont have anything synced from my computer to onedrive or google drive im good. what a big hard drive is for anyway

@scarecrow @phnt those things even if noise do have information. And the information being scattered thru proprietary chat programs is something that makes a good chunk of people (the ones posting the info) happy. Yeah, they love being able to take everything down.

@ins0mniak @phnt @mischievoustomato cloistering is part of the problem of the dead internet, "lets just exchange all our intended to be public information in this private signal chat or discord chats, we dont need man pages or articles "

@arcana what

@sendpaws @phnt back to forums

@arcana lmao

@mischievoustomato @phnt
>install instructions on our discord
should never be words posted on the public internet

@mischievoustomato @phnt @scarecrow Ad blocker is not your DNS to start with fundamentals of things.

@zer0unplanned @phnt @scarecrow i set my dns to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 at the router level bro

@mischievoustomato Postal pigeons were erased after WW1 !
last breath> dead.

@phnt @mischievoustomato Oh agreed, they're just the most recent example that popped in my head.

>japan stuck in the 90s

I kind of admire their refusal to use anything other that 1998 era web design.

@scarecrow @phnt @ins0mniak > "lets just exchange all our intended to be public information
why do you assume it was intended to be public

@scarecrow @phnt forums were similar. I didn't enjoy having to sign up to 349832384039984032 forums to get a (dead) download link or instructions

@mischievoustomato @phnt @scarecrow

Your Router's DNS please.. again and for the last time.
You can change router or modem, set ir right to start with.
then there's a road ahead.

@zer0unplanned @phnt @scarecrow no

@ins0mniak @mischievoustomato It's a weird time capsule. They also have the mentality of more information in front means better. So every page is just full of text and information to the point it's barely readable or navigable. The minimalism approach to web sites we have for like 2 decades now never materialized there.

@mischievoustomato @phnt at least they showed up in search results and werent over run by listicles ran by advertising companies

@scarecrow @phnt "at least" lmfao

@mischievoustomato @phnt @scarecrow Do as you like bro..

@ins0mniak @phnt @mischievoustomato I wish the UK government luck on banning VPNs. there will always be a way round these things.

I will never give away my passport or any identification to look at porn . for me, its more a want, not a need, but im not a porn addict like some ppl.

Id think its a in the mood kind of thing for most normal ppl

@foxcat @phnt @mischievoustomato Yeah, but then you start getting into the territory of having to have at least some technical skill about things, like obviously trivial to use vpn but I could see the day when they start trying to outlaw those. People can def get around things but its a slope of increasing difficulty once bad precedents set in like that I think.

I actually could care less about sketchy porn sites what scares me is going full on mandatory ID for everything

@ins0mniak @foxcat @mischievoustomato The way they'll deal with Fedi will be interesting. Imagine age verification the moment you click on a spoilered image on Mastosoc.

I know that day is coming, the question is. When will it happen.

@phnt @mischievoustomato I know, its really strange to look at in modern times, That's how things used to look circa say 1997. You see some sites from that era and its mind blowing to image what they were thinking.

has a nostalgic factor tho

@mischievoustomato @phnt @scarecrow that is Google and Mossad.

@zer0unplanned @phnt @scarecrow and

@ins0mniak @phnt @mischievoustomato VPNs cant be banned anyways its not possible, they can ban all IPs on mullvad etc but then you can just use a VPS and set up ur own wireguard lol

@foxcat @phnt @mischievoustomato Oh totally, but that's also where the slope of difficulty comes in. We all know how to do that...the average person not so much.

@phnt @foxcat @mischievoustomato Yeah I think you're right. I suspect we'll be the last holdouts however considering most people on here are good with shit like that.

@phnt @mischievoustomato It's not a hot take, it's the truth. I barely use the internet for jewtube, fedi, keeping the bare minimum of communication and the 3 online games I play.

Ah, and torrents. That alone represents like 80% of my bandwidth usage

@mischievoustomato Man

@scathach so? other people tried to give their arguments but I don't really agree

@mischievoustomato That's because you're a retard and a coomer

@ins0mniak @foxcat @mischievoustomato I have funny plans to do, if that day ever comes to me. But I hope I won't need to deal with them. Worst case, Tor instances are already a thing and now I know how to federate with them. It's not like the UK will ever have the capability to block Tor when even China can't block it completely.

@phnt @foxcat @mischievoustomato Oh same man, I was making some notes the other day after reading about some of this nonsense.

Id like to talk to my internet friends even if they drive us all underground....sound romantic but really its just a pain the ass to stay online lol

@captain_arepa @mischievoustomato You will consoom the slop and you will be happy.

@phnt @captain_arepa literally me

@mischievoustomato @captain_arepa At least you are honest with yourself. Most aren't.

@phnt @captain_arepa im a very simple man

@ins0mniak @foxcat @mischievoustomato
>really its just a pain the ass to stay online lol
It's already hard to find a host that won't throw you under the bus the moment you cause the slightest of troubles. And I expect it go get only worse.

@phnt @ins0mniak @foxcat @mischievoustomato misskey.io login walls nsfw

@phnt @mischievoustomato
>the mfer who actually touches grass and does useful shit
you are like ahead of 99% of normies, you'll build huge things when we leave the current dark ages

@phnt @foxcat @mischievoustomato yeah true, I mean I can host my instance out of my apartment easily...I dont fancy having my ip for all to see tho

@ins0mniak @foxcat @mischievoustomato My cucked router can't even do port forwarding and it's literally twice as cheap to rent a VPS than to get a publicly routable IP from them.

@ins0mniak @phnt @mischievoustomato its easier to use a VPS for hosting bcause then you dont gotta mess around with port forwarding etc

@foxcat @ins0mniak @mischievoustomato Finding a host that is capable of hosting a Pleroma instance is even harder without overpaying. Like I know of 2 or 3 that are sort of reputable.

@phnt @foxcat @mischievoustomato Im surprised they even let you set up bridge mode in this day and age.

@ins0mniak @foxcat @mischievoustomato That's the thing. They don't I either have their router, or no Internet. Alternatively I could switch to the other two ISPs which suck in their own unique ways.

@phnt @ins0mniak @mischievoustomato netcup and bytehosting is my go to

@foxcat @ins0mniak @mischievoustomato OpLink has been working mostly great for me for 3 months. No recommendations though.

@phnt @foxcat @mischievoustomato I pay a lot for the one I have...tho single user instance and Im not a very controversial person so I dont stress about the ban hammer and such. Thats just me however.

They do have a shitton of storage and bandwidth

@phnt @ins0mniak @foxcat @mischievoustomato not even via upnp?

@phnt @foxcat @mischievoustomato So obnoxious bro.

I fucking despise that...."well...for your security" bullshit

@ins0mniak @foxcat @mischievoustomato Yeah, they have their own "security" thing bullshit and when you search how to turn it off, the support page tells you do click on things that don't exist.

One time they labeled ReVanced as malware, then they labeled Tor as a security risk or whatever. It's a complete meme and companies pay a hefty fee for this. I get it forced down my throat for free without using a VPN.

@mischievoustomato @phnt if you cannot abstract that from the decline of average post quality on mongol basket weaving forum alone over the last 15 years I can't help but call you a massive newfag

@menherahair @ins0mniak @foxcat @mischievoustomato Nope, the functionality is there supposedly in the "advanced" menu system I have to go through an app, but the moment you log out and log back in to the interface, all settings are gone.

UPnP disabled by default and port forwarding completely broken.

@phnt @ins0mniak @foxcat @mischievoustomato grim

@phnt @ins0mniak @mischievoustomato its looks ok ig . $13 for 250gb and 8gb ram isnt bad

@phnt @ins0mniak @mischievoustomato this what I got. only costs $7 if you change euros to $, might be cheaper bcause its ARM, not x86

@mischievoustomato @phnt people didn't hyper optimize their silly little videos for maximum audience, attention and spectacle back then. When something went viral it was basically completely random and had some appeal to someone, even it the appeal was it being bad or cringe. It was genuine, expressive and unprofessional

@foxcat @ins0mniak @mischievoustomato Only complaint I have is that disk speeds are limited to 35MB/s (read and write separate), so database repacks take like 3-4 hours, but it can do 500 IOPS (again read and write separate) so the overall DB performance is way better than on Franware.

@phnt @foxcat @mischievoustomato morons bro.

Im sure they automate most of their security they way comcast does too so you get these indiscriminate bullshit issues

@dagda @mischievoustomato The dead era of the Internet started for me around the time Vine died. Yes, short form content. That was actually sometimes funny instead of the current slop.

@phnt @menherahair @ins0mniak @foxcat @mischievoustomato Is why I prefer infamous OSX UNIX systems..

@zer0unplanned @menherahair @phnt @foxcat @mischievoustomato Ive come around to OSX Unix lately.

@ins0mniak @menherahair @phnt @zer0unplanned @mischievoustomato genuinely rly like macos. it cant play games, and it looks worse than it used to (macos catalina my fav), but its still not bad.

@foxcat @menherahair @zer0unplanned @ins0mniak @mischievoustomato 10.5 Leopard was the peak of OS X looks, everything else looks worse.

@mischievoustomato @phnt @scarecrow No, again. And sorry if I stress on that you look for end way sollutions.
your network access point where it start> there 1st.
not some ad-Block or U-Block or whatever..
please get it.
check your network, there are sites online how to's
sysadminbarbarian has a good blog, others do as well.
It is really building your castle from ground up with the cornerstone being your access point.

And even access point you can divert (VPS) but after you lock that access 1st.

@dagda @phnt stuff is fine bro

@foxcat @menherahair @phnt @zer0unplanned @mischievoustomato yeah im using Sequio on an m4 atm.

Im into it tbh, at least they finally added a a damn dark mode lol

@dagda @phnt still "useless"

@ins0mniak @menherahair @mischievoustomato @phnt @zer0unplanned imo the icons have gotten uglier since catalina. looking at the catalina icons, then big sur yea , big sur was a bit of a downgrade. still mostly nice tho.

@foxcat @menherahair @zer0unplanned @ins0mniak @mischievoustomato It's the same simplification trend everybody has been on since Material Design. I don't like most of the looks everything has these days even though I do run a material design theme on my computer (Matcha Manjaro Dark with Qogir Manjaro Dark icons).

But whenever I install some old OS from mid 00's to mid 10's I immediately feel at home. The old icons have so much detail in them. For example look at old OpenOffice icons.

https://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo30MimeType.html

@ins0mniak @menherahair @phnt @zer0unplanned @foxcat im happy on gentoo but i would probably be as happy if not more on macOS

@foxcat @menherahair @phnt @zer0unplanned @ins0mniak macOS could run the games I play funnily enough

@foxcat @menherahair @phnt @zer0unplanned @mischievoustomato everything with that stupid flat minimalist look, I dont care for it at all.

@phnt @menherahair @zer0unplanned @ins0mniak @mischievoustomato same. flat design is not my thing. its just boring.

i still have an old ipod touch running ios 6 just cause i like the looks of it so much

i'll also load up a windows xp or 7 vm every once in a while

@foxcat @menherahair @phnt @zer0unplanned @ins0mniak i like the look of liquid glass

@mischievoustomato @menherahair @zer0unplanned @ins0mniak @foxcat It's better than the current design, but they went overboard on effects while still being obsessed with "simplicity". So basically the worst of both worlds combined.

@mischievoustomato @menherahair @phnt @zer0unplanned @ins0mniak me

@mischievoustomato @menherahair @phnt @zer0unplanned @foxcat its surprisingly comfy, the sound on it is amazing

@ins0mniak @menherahair @phnt @zer0unplanned @foxcat related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSLy5euft2o

@phnt @menherahair @zer0unplanned @ins0mniak @foxcat i wanna use it myself to like form an opinion

@foxcat @menherahair @phnt @zer0unplanned @ins0mniak proprietary software is pretty kino

@foxcat @menherahair @phnt @zer0unplanned @mischievoustomato yeah I miss that era of ui design.

This tra minimalist stuff is insulting

@mischievoustomato @menherahair @phnt @zer0unplanned @foxcat I'm looking forward to trying the beta version of macos to see it

@ins0mniak @menherahair @zer0unplanned @foxcat @mischievoustomato Could be worse, imagine if your desktop looked like picrel.
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@mischievoustomato @menherahair @phnt @zer0unplanned @ins0mniak u should try hackintosh u can install it rly easy btw https://github.com/lzhoang2801/OpCore-Simplify requires windows tho unfortunately

@foxcat @menherahair @phnt @zer0unplanned @ins0mniak nigga, i would've done this if I could. I already know of shit like this

@mischievoustomato @menherahair @phnt @zer0unplanned @ins0mniak o right. nvidia card user ig

@foxcat @menherahair @phnt @zer0unplanned @ins0mniak no

@sendpaws @phnt @mischievoustomato assertion: discord is not underground to the people who run it, and giving a tap to LEA is a great way to monitor these things.

@foxcat @menherahair @phnt @zer0unplanned @ins0mniak @mischievoustomato

Literally all nostalgiafags ever.

@mischievoustomato @ins0mniak @menherahair @phnt @zer0unplanned you also cant use a vm cause it looks at ur pc specifications and stuff

Discord is the worst of all worlds:
1. Hidden from the public
2. Transparent to the glowieverse
3. No one is realistically anonymous

@phnt @menherahair @zer0unplanned @foxcat @mischievoustomato Real chads use Microsoft Bob

@cjd @phnt @jeff @mischievoustomato discord mods can't even take care of the 764 problem they have

@ins0mniak @foxcat @mischievoustomato @phnt

They want exactly that. They want it badly. Giving the trajectory of noticing who is wrecking the west, a "SHUT IT DOWN!" has rung out from on high. They've got three generations of kids now who give zero fucks about boomer-era programming and shibboleths. That's an existential problem for the Rothchild-tier of parasites.

@SilverDeth @ins0mniak @foxcat @mischievoustomato They also have two generations of kids who are completely incompetent with any tech in general.

@phnt @foxcat @ins0mniak @mischievoustomato

I'm pretty sure we can help change that. Kids learn fast. I have three. The sneaky shit they've gotten up to at times was... impressive. Enough so that I didn't hammer them as hard as I should have - as I try to encourage a good deal of disrespect for authority.

@phnt @SilverDeth @foxcat @mischievoustomato Most are worse than boomers. Its astounding.

I had to this community college class for work a few years ago....like they make you do a remedial computer class to do that one....already pissed about that.

So Im in this class with all these mid 20 year olds.....fucking people could not ell you jack shit about anything. They knew about instagram and tiktok....that was it.

Teacher would be all "does anyone know what http stand for?"......long ass silence....me pounding my head on the desk....

@mischievoustomato @menherahair @phnt @zer0unplanned @foxcat Cool.

Yeah I might spring for a MacPro here at some point. I should have gotten more storage with this mac air.

@ins0mniak @phnt @foxcat @mischievoustomato

Gentlemen... there are always options...

https://atalnetworks.com/tehran-iran-vps-server/

My website backup lives with these fine folks. Now... I'm not the oracle of Delphi or Cassiopeia, but I'm am pretty sure how a western takedown request will be dealt with if they shut-down my US hosted site.

(Laughter, mockery, mirth, Persian curses).

@SilverDeth @phnt @ins0mniak @foxcat @mischievoustomato Nice!

@sendpaws @cjd @phnt @mischievoustomato 764?

@mischievoustomato @icedquinn @Mamako
github.com/zedeus/nitter/

@ins0mniak @foxcat @menherahair @mischievoustomato @phnt @zer0unplanned

The pushing of Bolshi-art paradigms is both ideological and a cost cutting measure. It takes some artistic talent to build a flash, early 2k-style site. Your Poojeet tech-scabs working for pocket-lint can handle a San-serif font and maybe a gradient.

My website is a glorious homage to early 2000's decadence.

@SilverDeth @menherahair @phnt @zer0unplanned @foxcat @mischievoustomato based.

I just hate how everything looks the same. All the creativity has been sapped in favor of getting dumb normies to buy shit.

All the fun of that era was taken over by sterile shitty sites like facebook and such.

GFD ? I have no idea

@jeff @cjd @phnt @mischievoustomato @sendpaws

@IceCubeSoup @cjd @phnt @mischievoustomato @sendpaws found it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/764_(organization)

@menherahair @phnt @foxcat @ins0mniak @mischievoustomato I don't think any of the ISPs I've ever used actually supported upnp... it's a mystery technology in our hood

@deciav @menherahair @foxcat @ins0mniak @mischievoustomato @phnt In some places you'd be lucky to get a proper vlan with public routing via dhcp instead of some pptp/l2tp nonsense because ISP never modernized from dial-up era time-based billing, even though all plans were unmetered twisted pair for two decades now. I have some locations in the city where it's either that or wireless lagfest, thankfully not the one I'm in.

> 764 is a decentralized Satanic neo-Nazi transnational sextortion network that is reportedly adjacent to the Order of Nine Angles, a far-right Satanic terrorist network.

I don't know who any of these people are, but Wikipedia certainly knows how to make them sound based.

@cjd it has all the buzzwords so i am rather skeptical that it’s even a real thing and not just a figment of the imagination of some wiki editor schizo.

@mischievoustomato @phnt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-TANCVoHlc

@cunny @phnt soy

Sounds about right, some wiki loser describing his sleep paralysis daemons.

@cjd they link to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Nine_Angles as a source which is an article that has zero citations and reads like a journal entry hating on some guy from whales.

@phnt@fluffytail.org @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love yeah, it's been forever since I stumbled upon a niche community/blog full of useful information on a very specific topic the way I used to in the early 2010s.

For work purposes, besides GitHub it's basically just a library of published papers (if your uni/company pays the ransom).

@phnt @mischievoustomato literally me

@cunny @mischievoustomato
>sponsor in media card
Yeah, not watching that.

@deciav @foxcat @ins0mniak @mischievoustomato @phnt upnp feature just goes on the residential router firmware unless you're on cgnat, so if they skimp on that... no video games

@mischievoustomato @phnt yeah I was trying to find something you might relate to, anyway 19:45 is the most relevant timestamp (and the most relevant year, ironically enough)

@cunny @phnt i think i did watch that video in the past i just dont care

@cjd @phnt @jeff @IceCubeSoup @mischievoustomato they're a very real group of accelerationist pedophiles who make teenagers self harm and shoot up schools and it sounds too absurd to be real but I assure you it's 100% real.

There's receipts of them existing too and members have been charged in federal prison.

isnt o9a literally just a cia front

@Alex @phnt @jeff @IceCubeSoup @cjd @mischievoustomato hamas was an israeli front at one time too and we all know what happened there

@sendpaws @cjd @phnt @IceCubeSoup @mischievoustomato it sounds like an unhinged schizo wiki editor wikipedia article to me honestly. it has all the right buzzwords and hallmarks of it being a work of creative fiction.

I can hold both possibilities in my head at the same time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@jeff @cjd @phnt @IceCubeSoup @mischievoustomato @sendpaws no they 764 atomwaffen O9A are all real.
if you want any consolation they are probably fed ops gone wrong.

@cjd i can see that too, like it started as delusional and then someone decided to make it “real” to freak them out

@nuukaset @cjd @phnt @IceCubeSoup @mischievoustomato @sendpaws the hybrid explanation is more plausible: it started out as a schizophrenic dellusion on wikipedia and then someone decides to make it “real” for “trolling” reasons (feds)

@jeff @cjd @phnt @IceCubeSoup @mischievoustomato @sendpaws i cant lie to you what i said was speculative ; that all the sadism orgs were all fed ops but you turned it doubly speculative by saying feds made it up by reading it on wikipedia.

these orgs are real, you shouldnt be guilty of being right wing but you absolutely shouldnt think these are based just because you aligned to them somewhat, they vile vile vile subhumans who need to eliminated.

@nuukaset @cjd @phnt @IceCubeSoup @mischievoustomato @sendpaws i dont think these are based. i think it started as a leftist fever dream and was manufactured by glowies to discredit all left wing sources, people on the left simply refuse to police their movement of the crazies so i have no sympathy for them. the right excels at it, they have no choice but to. agent provocateurs are a bipartisan thing and the left refuses to admit they have a problem with them even still.

If you're doing something that would get you in trouble, it's often more clever to think up all of the most evil things you can possibly imagine and do ALL of them at the same time. It kind of disarms people from being able to react.

If you're siphoning off cash out of the government coffers, you go to jail. If you're siphoning off cash out of the government coffers WHILE ritually murdering children, and intentionally poisoning the food, medicine, and air, nobody can really accept that it's happening, and the ones who do sound like cranks to everyone else.

I assume this same mechanism works at a smaller scale as well, like if you're creating a shady online club, you should make it as terrifying sounding as you possibly can, so most people just refuse to believe it exists, and anyone trying to write about it sounds like a schitzo.

@cjd @phnt @jeff @nuukaset @IceCubeSoup @mischievoustomato There's another explanation: when you have edgelords whose entire moral worldview revolves around "it's ironic bro", nothing is off-limits.

That and it's something that is too "icky" to talk about.

> it's something that is too "icky" to talk about.

You're making my point...