If my main laptop ends up getting bricked because of Microshaft's shit, I'm downgrading to WIndows 7 Ultimate 64bit, or Linux Mint.
(I use an ASUS Vivobook laptop, so I hope it won't be affected)
I also paused updates for 5 weeks. Fucking Microsoft, they're just monsters in human skin at this point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlY2QjP_-9s&t=153

@Purp1Lady This is when you need government and regulate their asses. Forcing people to download updates when they don't want to is wrong and the business ethics of it is up for a lengthy discussion.

Say what you will about Apple, but this is why I prefer macOS. Apple doesn't force you to update, so I can update when I choose to do so after bugs have been ironed out.

Government regulation causes these kinds of problems, not fixes them. Regulation is easier/more affordable for the tech giants to follow and they welcome their competition getting crippled because they can get away with raping the consumers more and more.

> Say what you will about Apple
Ok cool I will, it's gay and for retarded starbucks swilling faggots who enjoy pretending that an excessively high cost = a superior product. You can postpone updates on windows, it's one of the first things on the update page lmao, and you can even use 3rd party software 🤯.

Linux has had both OS beaten for years, but apple is still the most retarded and gay by a long margin.

You don't understand the experience bro, you're a sheep bro

> the experience

Should have read the EULA, scrub

The fucking phone syncs with you tv bro shut the fuck up

You deserve the cuttlefish and asparagus 😤

Hey fatass, which OS syncs your ass with your fucking bike?

@Sui @Purp1Lady That's nice. I'm not a fairy gay faggot and I don't drink Charbucks. I don't pretend Apple is not more expensive, because I just felt it in my pocketbook getting my new MacBook Air out of necessity for my photography. Especially when I'm going through and processing over 7000+ photos like I did last year with Balloon Fiesta 2024. Not going through that shit again.

I'll tell you something right now. Apple has hit a home run with the M4 series of Apple Silicon. When what took 30+ minutes to process last year, now takes 30 seconds or less. That is how impressive these new processors/GPU's are.

I'm putting on my Computer Analyst/Programmer hat here, and yes I have a degree that gave me the ability to program in 7 different programming languages.

macOS is a vastly superior OS over Windows and even Linux. I've used more Linux distributions than I care to count. Apple does some boneheaded shit sometimes, but that happens with every OS. Windows has had its share of it over the years.

Linux still sucks shit after all these years, because you still don't have companies making products I use every single day. Windows sucks shit all the time to this day since Windows 3.

e.g. DxO PhotoLab, DxO FilmPack, DxO PureRaw, DxO ViewPoint, Topaz Photo AI 4, Tag Editor, To Audio Converter, Mac DVD Ripper Pro, Affinity Designer, Affinity Photo, Affinity Publisher, Visual Watermark, etc.

If these companies offered these software applications I'd probably be using Linux. But, it is what it is.

In my world, if you make the software they will come. Linux doesn't make software that even approaches the functionality that I need in my computing life. I've been using computers since my first AMIGA 500 back in the late 1980s, so I think I know what I'm talking about here. Oh... I was even a Commodore AMIGA Authorized Dealer with my own computer store back in Canada.

In 1997, I was faced with going with the Mac or a Windows computer, because Commodore went bankrupt back in 1992. My AMIGA was getting too slow online, etc. I chose the Mac with the Power Macintosh 5400/180 while I was still in the Canadian Forces. Then I got the first iMac (Bondi Blue) and sold my Power Mac to a friend of mine.

It really shouldn't need that much text just to say the obvious truth that it goes Linux > microsoft > apple 🤷🏻‍♂️. As cost increases (negative) choice is more limited (also negative). More negatives ≠ positive.

Im still rocking windows 98

@Darbzilla @Purp1Lady there was an age undreamed of

@Sui @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy sui I didn't know you were based

I stuck it out with micropeen as long as I could, mostly for game compatibility tbh, but moving over to linux seems inevitable whenever this laptop dies. Windows 12 is going to shit the bed more than ever and apple isn't going to stop being apple.

@Sui @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy in a lot of cases linux has better game compatibility now than windows does. the only issue is that game devs will prevent linux gamers from playing multiplayer

Yeah it seems a lot easier than ever to use, and IIRC you emulate windows for the shit that won't work. I think there's gonna be one hell of a migration to it. It might even become the industry norm at some point, especially as windows and apple keep consistently downgrading.

@Sui @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy you should move now, kde is great. people are migrating to cachyos. I use nixos

This laptop's been dying for a while, it was an "internet browsing" deal and I've probably burned out the hardware ahead of planned obsolescence running modded games. Definitely with the next one though, I'm not touching windows 12.

@Sui @Purp1Lady Oh, I forgot something. It's Linux snobs like you that turn me off from Linux entirely.

I've rarely used linux, and never on my own hardware, I just have a grasp on reality. Enjoy being a cow for apple though, no skin off my teeth if you want to continue being full retard lol lmoa

@Sui @Purp1Lady Wrong. The software applications are what is going to make an user decide which platform to go with.

Wrong? How? It is more expensive and with less choice, and if you insist to drag in software then apple still has the least compatibility. It's just objectively true. Classic applefag response though, ignore everything that's said and dive deep into cope

@Sui @Purp1Lady How is macOS less inferior? For those of us that know how to use the Terminal in macOS it is very powerful.

Millions of shit software doesn't make Windows or Linux any better.

> How is macOS less inferior?

You appear to be tangled up in an apple induced brainfog, less inferior = superior and nobody's arguing that but retards with a sunk cost fallacy in a brand that hates you lmfao.

Free market leads to better results, and apple has you by the balls, open source software is superior to apple junk already and it'll only increase the gap over time.

@Sui @Purp1Lady So, you're just talking out of your ass then. You don't know WTF you are talking about.

You use linux and prefer it to apple:
> I don't listen to linux fanboys

You don't use linux and prefer it to apple:
> So, you're just talking out of your ass then

🤣

@Sui @Purp1Lady Yeah... Free software has produced so many wonderful software applications. ROTFLMAO

> uses apple products

Nigger I win by default you do get that right? Not sure why you're coping so hard, you lost at team select.

@politicallyincorrectpuppy @Purp1Lady @Sui macos is great if your primary usecase is watching cuckold porn

@politicallyincorrectpuppy @Purp1Lady @Sui

I always loved hearing people stating they use apple because shit like adobe products and music production are just "better" on there.

It actually has, especially in the field of music production?
Many high quality VSTs have been produced on this basis.

I generally avoid apple software for a reason, but even their shit like PDF readers have gotten way worse somehow. Getting locked in on one company is peak retard, and then it's all sunk cost fallacy fueling cope from there.

@rees @politicallyincorrectpuppy @Purp1Lady @Sui dumb cat

@mischievoustomato @Purp1Lady @Sui @politicallyincorrectpuppy

@Purp1Lady this is funny because on linux, BTRFS (a widely used filesystem for linux) had a bug that would render a system unbootable, and you had to fix it manually. Stuff happens basically.

@Sui @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy > excessively high cost = a superior product
it does have nice extras that you get for the price from what I hear. A good chunk of people even on fedi mentioned this when moving from normal computers or android to apple stuff. I am yet to try it though, but I am quite fed up with Android so I do believe my next phone will be an iPhone.

@politicallyincorrectpuppy @Purp1Lady @Sui Linux is acceptable if you can tolerate some stuff, for most people it should work fine but when there's issues it can range from "oh ok i have to do this and its fine" or "im the only person on the world who has this issue wtf".

@Sui @Red_Hat @Purp1Lady I base my computing decisions on functionality and usage. Not whether the software is free or not free - that is irrelevant to most end users. Also, who the fuck wants to work for free? I sure don't.

You just don't get it. It's software applications that will drive a person to use an operating system (OS). This is where Steve Jobs was 100% correct.

I've used all three platforms myself over the years and I vastly prefer macOS for functionality and daily usage. Also, I use the Terminal to do things at a deep level in the OS, because macOS is capable of that since the first version of Mac OS X.

You just bought into the starbucks of computing, there's no need to lie here. You brought up software, I countered with compatibility and choice and now you're pretending it's about free vs overpaid? Hell of a goalpost shift there into that false dichotomy fallacy. You really nosedived straight in there huh?

> You just don't get it I ENJOY being in the cuck chair of computing!

😏

@Purp1Lady Go to settings->Windows Update->Pause updates for as much as you can. Hope it gets fixed in 4 weeks (the maximum period you can pause updates for).

@stoner713 @Darbzilla @Purp1Lady
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@politicallyincorrectpuppy @Purp1Lady @Sui Great choice on the M4 MacBook those things are amazing.

@Sui @Red_Hat @Purp1Lady Forgot something...

Peak retard is running Windows and not even running Linux on your own computer. Then you go spouting off on Linux. That's fucking retarded.

What you forgot was already saying that, and it didn't work last time either 💅

@politicallyincorrectpuppy @Purp1Lady >Apple doesn't force you to update
it's actually worse, they make their hardware prone to failure so you're forced to buy new ones

@politicallyincorrectpuppy @Purp1Lady @Sui I've been using Linux since 2020 full time or near full time (full time since 2021 actually) and used a lot of distros and eventually landed on Gentoo. This is either my endgame distro or I move to macOS and never look back. So far I am comfy.

@mischievoustomato @Purp1Lady @Sui @politicallyincorrectpuppy you just have a distro-hopping addiction, you'll move on to the next one in a little while

@mischievoustomato @Purp1Lady @Sui The only Linux distribution that I've tried and actually like is this one...

https://elementary.io

It's actually user-friendly from a GUI (Graphical User Interface) standpoint.

@politicallyincorrectpuppy @Purp1Lady @Sui i used it, but it's developed by a very small team and you eventually run into the "other apps look and feel alien". So now I just run KDE.

@rees @Purp1Lady @Sui @politicallyincorrectpuppy hopefully not, but if I get fed up I'll just get a macbook.

> it can range from "oh ok i have to do this and its fine" or "im the only person on the world who has this issue wtf".

That kinda just sums up life in general though 🤷🏻‍♂️

Also isn't it better to not be so reliant on exclusive "geniuses" to fix tech problems who will inevitably just recommend the most expensive solution to any problem, as they have a direct vested interest in doing so?

>The software applications are what is going to make an user decide which platform to go with.

You mean the shit that's constantly getting bricked due to a useless security update from Apple or Micro$uck

Passing it along for a phost goast.

I for one am tired of having musical applications work one day and, because of an update from Microsoft, they suddenly decide to stop working the next.

How are those for software applications when I cannot even apply them at all.

@mischievoustomato @Purp1Lady @Sui @politicallyincorrectpuppy you've been saying that for years why don't you just stop destabilizing your systems with bleeding edge packages and custom kernels for a 0.005% performance gain

My laptop's been beeping at me in morse code since the last update, apparently it means "process failed" not "hardware's about to explode" so at least that's something.

>Free software has produced so many wonderful software applications

Poastie says from his website that is being ran on Linux.
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@Purp1Lady do Linux mint! Most games work with proton on steam if you use it. Just look up which hotfix to use for whatever non compatible game you want to play and force compatibility. I've had an honestly great experience with normie linux. Most krita additions are linux compatible too.

@politicallyincorrectpuppy @Purp1Lady @Sui sucks to suck macfag :]

@politicallyincorrectpuppy @Purp1Lady Mac's literally kill the ssds with virtual memory and 8gb ram

@politicallyincorrectpuppy @Purp1Lady @Sui how does it feel having to buy the same software over and over yearly like it's a Madden game

@rees @Purp1Lady @Sui @politicallyincorrectpuppy im literally using stable gentoo and stable kernels lol. I can just get a macbook if stuff doesn't go well

@Sui @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy If I had the money, I would prefer to just pay and not have issues. I have put time and learned a lot, but when I have a job and money I will probably not want to do that as much, but currently I am fine dealing with Gentoo.

You can do that with any OS though, it's not a perk of apple it's just an unavoidable inevitability with them. I can guarantee you that there are plenty of people willing to fix any tech problem you have with any major OS if you throw enough money at them.

@PurpCat @Purp1Lady @Sui What are you talking about?

macOS is and always was free from the first version of Mac OS X. Mac OS Classic was a whole other story. Microsoft is the one that charges an arm and a leg for version upgrades.

@politicallyincorrectpuppy @Purp1Lady @Sui it's buying adobe and avid and all the other Mac programs again because sorry, your Mac can't run classic/ppc/Intel 32 apps anymore

> macOS is and always was free from the first version

That's just dark marketing, it's like saying a sandwich is free so long as you buy the wrapper at full price.

@Sui @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy for a good decade or two they were also selling os upgrades

@politicallyincorrectpuppy @Purp1Lady @Sui Gatekeeping working as intended :)

@Purp1Lady

Winblows losers keep taking Ls and will do anything they can to keep on being losers instead of doing the most logical thing, which is to replace proprietary degeneracy with GNU+Linux.

Also have fun being unable to boot Windows 7 on new hardware.

@f0x @Purp1Lady @Sui A lot of you talk about fags. Must be because you're well acquainted with the sexual orientation or lifestyle.

> I keep getting called a fag so it must be them with the problem!
> *resumes sucking cock*

@rees @mischievoustomato @Purp1Lady @Sui LOL

I gave up that idiocy years ago - always chasing the faster specs, etc. It's not worth it. Just buy what you want to use and to hell with everyone else.

@politicallyincorrectpuppy @Purp1Lady @Sui @mischievoustomato what are you smoking

@Sui @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy yeah but I'd rather use an apple product if i reach that point

@PurpCat @Sui @Purp1Lady No kidding. I was there with System 7.6, Mac OS 8, Mac OS 9. That all changed when Apple went to the Power PC processor and didn't charge anything for OS upgrades.

@politicallyincorrectpuppy @Purp1Lady @Sui IIRC they quit later in the OS X era, they were selling 10.6 for ages online.

@politicallyincorrectpuppy @Purp1Lady @Sui @rees you can just get an apple silicon mac and just get fast speeds anyway

@Sui @f0x @Purp1Lady OK, I've had enough of your faggotry.

Sorry I couldn't make that out, your mouth is full of cock.
Can you finish up and swallow before trying again.

Someone says "fag," that's one thing.
Imagining them actually being fags, that's kind of another thing. Are you comfortable with oftentimes thinking about others' homosexual exploits?

@Sui @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy but as stuff stands now, I my next pc would be a gaming laptop. ream would be a rog zephyrus g14, but budget will probably put me in an asus tuf boundary. We'll see.

@PurpCat @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy
Apple had serious issues with Mac OS X update circa 10.4.8 — it's been wrecking external hard drives, a lot of my friends has very similar issues. It probably had something to to with power over USB, problem never got acknowledged and just somehow resolved itself by 10.4.11
I also still have my Late 2011 MacBookPro — all machines of that era had serious issues with discrete GPUs that were just getting fried at some point. Apple refused to even acknowledge the problem — only did it in 2016, five years after the launch date and I might be wrong about that, but I think it had happened only after a potential class-action lawsuit at their door.
For Apple it's quite common to not even acknowledge the problem — everyone with enough experience dealing with their products is aware of that.

But the issue at hand is updates, right? Apple makes avoiding them easier that Microsoft does, that is true, but I don't think that its a good will thing, it's only that way because otherwise people would avoid their products, they've been even less pushy with anti-features in 2000s when their market share was negligible — they just cannot afford being as evil as Microsoft.

And of course you can avoid Windows updates too, they didn't make it obvious, but it's possible — I've postponed updates till 2035 on my only Windows machine. I got tired of wasting time on removing Microsoft Chrome and WebView 2 after every update. I also want to avoid anything COPilot getting installed with updates. So here I am: only Windows Defender definitions are getting updates, everything else is susceptible to receiving anti-features with updates.

@mischievoustomato @Purp1Lady @Sui @rees Our Official Photographer Team Leader works for Apple. He used his Friends & Family Employee Purchase Plan to save some money for me. Much appreciated because that allowed me to buy the Anker Thunderbolt 5 doc I was able to get.

I was shocked when I saw the tracking information. Left Hanoi, Vietnam instead of China. Apple is finally getting its production out of China. The Magic Trackpad I ordered for my desktop setup is also made in Vietnam.

@m0xEE @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy >everything else is susceptible to receiving anti-features with updates.

@politicallyincorrectpuppy @Purp1Lady @Sui @rees Nice. I don't really know much of Asia beyond having a yellow fever for chinese, korean and japanese women, though.

What mac do you have?

@gray @Purp1Lady @Sui @politicallyincorrectpuppy even an m2 air would be great. But I'm poor right now for that lolé

@mischievoustomato @Purp1Lady @Sui ASUS makes awesome gaming laptops. 😊

@politicallyincorrectpuppy @Purp1Lady @Sui I really like how the Rog Zephyrus laptops look. Right now I have an Asus Vivobook, it's just black, upgradable ram, wifi and storage, fast cpu too (i5-12500H). Shit's nice.

@sally @Purp1Lady
>Also have fun being unable to boot Windows 7 on new hardware.

?? Have they preemptively crippled it so that it wont work with hardware set amount in future?

@Pi_rat @Purp1Lady

The new amd64 CPUs have a new architecture with two different core clusters for different purposes, this new architecture lacks support for old versions of Windows, even W10 doesn't work properly with them.

@politicallyincorrectpuppy @Purp1Lady @Sui @mischievoustomato @rees

@f0x @Purp1Lady I have fond memories of LM 17.2. I was in awe of the fact that I could listen to music and play vidya at the same time without horrible slowdowns. Windows couldn't do it

@PurpCat @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy wasn't that a nothingburger? People made a fuzz of it then that thing died down and no mac was reported as dead

Yeah, I can run Postal 2 easily on my laptop, which is pretty nice.
(I'm just really hoping my laptop won't be affected tbqh, since I don't know which kind of ssd driver it has.)

@rees @Purp1Lady How is that so?

My MacBook Air 13" (2017) lasted me eight years until I was forced to upgrade because it's too damned slow for photo software coming out now. The new MacBook Air 15" (M4, 2025) runs circles around it, too.

On my older MacBook Air it took 30+ minutes to process a RAW photo file. On my newer one it takes less than 30 seconds or less. To me, this made the purchase absolutely worth it.

On my older MacBook Air I upgraded the SSD to 2TB from 512GB. Also, in October 2024 I replaced the battery, because after five years you normally have to do that with any laptop.

I've generally had a lot of good luck with Apple products. They also made my new MacBook Air in Vietnam not China which is a bonus. I'd prefer "Made in the USA" but no computer company is there yet.

My favorite Mac was the MacBook Pro 13" (mid-2012). Could do so many things with that laptop.

Years ago, I used to build Linux computers with Linspire and sell them to businesses. One Florida business bought 40 of them off me. Not one of them came back defective either, because I used quality components not crappy ones.

@PurpCat @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy
Nowadays the greatest Encryptor Wyrm of all is Windows itself — you can't even pay BTC 0.0000000005 to get data from your SSD back

@PurpCat @Purp1Lady @Sui @politicallyincorrectpuppy would people want to run those things anyway? For classic and ppc that just sounds like toy stuff that a VM could do, as for Intel 32, that was discontinued ages ago, and most software these days for mac just runs on Apple Silicon, no?

@mischievoustomato @gray @Purp1Lady @Sui The guy who works for Apple has an M2 MacBook Pro. He told me the M4 just blows that processor out of the water. Anything M1, M2, M3, M4 is good. With the M4 though they hit major performance improvements though.

@mischievoustomato @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy just because AppleMarketing.com quit reporting on it doesn't mean it doesn't still happen, and it'd only be a nothingburger if Macs were like PCs and you could swap the SSDs out and install a 1tb SSD or put in RAM. But allegedly this new RAM is somehow faster or something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZuv4TIjk-I

I don't know, maybe Apple engineers are smoking the same meth that engineers trying to beat the EPA smoke, and think that because this ram is somehow faster on paper that it outweighs SWAPPING EVERYTHING.

Did you not read what he just said?
He said he's had enough of your faggotry.

@politicallyincorrectpuppy @gray @Purp1Lady @Sui Yeah. Imo the highlight for me on the M chips is the av1 hw encode. Neat. On my intel laptop I encode av1 using cpu but it's fast enough for avif and acceptable for av1.
I have I think 2 online friends that have M2 macbook pros, I think both have the max variant, one showed to me that he could use his to generate women with huge tits, the other runs games on it, both are software engineers.

@mischievoustomato @Purp1Lady @Sui @politicallyincorrectpuppy
>would people want to run those things anyway?

idk man I can still run old PC games on Windows without having to download shit from the internet while on the Mac you need a recompile and similar.

@PurpCat @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy > But allegedly this new RAM is somehow faster or something.

you can't say allegedly when it is in fact faster lol.

> video
> 1 (one) m1 macbook air
alright bro big deal

@PurpCat @Purp1Lady @Sui @politicallyincorrectpuppy so you can still use the things anyway? nothingburger alright

@mischievoustomato @PurpCat @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy >no mac was reported as dead

Apple's PR around that time:

@mischievoustomato @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy did you watch the video or are you trying to keyboard warrior, it even gives you tips on how to extend the SSD lifespan.

By faster, I mean "do you think Joe Normie is going to notice that it's 6 million jiggawatts faster vs your VRChat sesh crashing because it ran out of RAM again"

🤣

@mischievoustomato @Purp1Lady @Sui @politicallyincorrectpuppy yeah because get this, PCs don't store their boot firmware in the SSD either like Macs do (which means they drop to DFU mode).

@Sui @f0x @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy @Owl itoddler

@PurpCat @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy no, why would I waste my time? I only looked at the first few seconds of the showcase.

> joe normie
i don't care about joe normie or your obsession with vrchat

@professionalbigot69 @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy @mischievoustomato apple PR's catchphrase is "a very small number"
https://youtu.be/kifBYFXU7X0

You see what trolling on the computer did? Do you feel better about yourself? Do you think you've actually done something today, because you haven't. I bet you feel ridiculous now.

@PurpCat @Purp1Lady @Sui @politicallyincorrectpuppy you can just recompile on mac, so its a nothingburger

@PurpCat @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy @professionalbigot69 > rossman
discarded

> Do you feel better about yourself?

@mischievoustomato @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy yeah so let me break it down for you: basically when you have an 8gb macbook the OS swaps to SSD all the damn time, which kills the SSD. It doesn't matter what OS you use, if it's ram constrained it's gonna do that.

@mischievoustomato @Purp1Lady @Sui @politicallyincorrectpuppy only when you own the source code

@PurpCat @mischievoustomato @Purp1Lady I'd like a Mac Pro like the original one I had where I could add components (HDDs, SSDs, RAM, video card) as I could afford them.

Personally, I agree. Apple should offer MacBook Air and MacBook Pro computers with the ability to install your own SSD and own SO-DIMM RAM via little removable plates on the bottom of them. I had that ability with my old MacBook Pro (mid-2012). I installed a SATA 2.5" SSD to replace the hard drive and maxed out the RAM.

@politicallyincorrectpuppy @PurpCat @Purp1Lady When I have money I won't give a shit, I'll just get what I want, if its soldered or not it's gonna be fine for at least 3 years, and by that time I'll get a new computer and toss the one to the trash or use it for server stuff.

@PurpCat @Purp1Lady @Sui @politicallyincorrectpuppy good point, but i dont really run anything that'd require that so i simply dont care

@PurpCat @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy i know of that from /g/ and youtube, and apparently there were never reports of *actual* macbook deaths so I regard it as a nothingburger

@politicallyincorrectpuppy @Purp1Lady @mischievoustomato >I'd like a Mac Pro like the original one I had where I could add components (HDDs, SSDs, RAM, video card) as I could afford them.

@PurpCat @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy ok for a server but my personal machines gotta be laptops.

@Sui@decayable.ink macfags are all the same

@PurpCat @Purp1Lady @mischievoustomato Fuck, that is ugly as sin.

@politicallyincorrectpuppy @PurpCat @Purp1Lady we have similar hp workstations at university. I9-12900K's with rtx a4000 gpus. Incredible power and at most they ran classic opengl on cpu lmfao. IDK why the university wasted so much money.. most people just bring their own laptops (myself included)

@mischievoustomato @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy lenowo makes them too
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/workstations/thinkstation-p-series/thinkstation-px-workstation/len102s0013#models

@PurpCat @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy idk which is better or what.

@mischievoustomato @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy $34k now, $200 on ebay in a few years

@PurpCat @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy ogey

@mischievoustomato @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy 120 cores, 240 threads

@PurpCat @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy sweet. Perfect.

@PurpCat @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy @mischievoustomato

Meanwhile on GNU you need to specifically configure a swap space, if you run out of RAM then skill issue, but at least it doesn't slowly kill your SSD.

@Sui @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy @NonPlayableClown @Owl
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@f0x @Purp1Lady If my 70 year old relatives can use it after using XP for 20 years, basically everybody can. So far it only broke thanks to Ubuntu being Ubuntu.

I don't take rebellious technology well

@PurpCat @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy @mischievoustomato
>basically when you have an 8gb macbook

I remember years ago a friend who had bought crapple product was boasting "x amount of ram is equivalent to 2x amount in other devices", back then I did not know how retarded and impossible that statement is(still did not agree with it), later I found out it is literally apple's selling pitch.

@politicallyincorrectpuppy @PurpCat @Purp1Lady @Sui
>he doesn't know about the times where OS X was literally sold on CDs/DVDs for $100+

Ubuntu

Had to write a custom driver for that, was hell

@Pi_rat @sally @Purp1Lady New hardware is EFI with restricted boot and it will refuse to boot BIOS-boot OS's unless there is a way to enable BIOS-boot.

windows 7 also lacks a usb 3.0 driver by default, which means you won't be able to complete the installer unless there are USB 2.0 ports, or the driver is manually installed.

That is a waste of time when you should just install GNU/Linux (probably somewhat better proprietary malware compatibility in some cases - but why would you run malware?).

@Suiseiseki @sally
>That is a waste of time when you should just install GNU/Linux

I am going to install Debian Hurd, or linux-libre(open for reccs) soon. I mostly use librewolf, gimp, kdenlive(occasionally). What should I expect? (links for some preliminary reading)

I have tried to install Guix and It would have worked but did not go ahead with it then, GPU(rx 6600) would not work but I don't use it anyways, and Im using rpi as a bridge for wifi.

@Pi_rat @sally Librewolf and kdenlive may not work, but GIMP should.

You can use an RX 6600 in VESA mode.

@Suiseiseki @sally Hmm so I will have to use other browser...Ice cat? Maybe I will start using lynx or whatever zergling uses

@Pi_rat @sally Idk, I haven't tested any browsers myself.

If icecat works, librewolf will work.

w3m and lynx are good terminal browsers.

@Pi_rat @Suiseiseki

You won't get a graphical environment with Hurd.

@sally @Pi_rat Xorg can in fact go into framebuffer mode, but that'll require too much modification to be worth it.

@rees @Purp1Lady @politicallyincorrectpuppy Apple does in fact force updates - there is just the option to delay them for quite a period.

Even despite the intentionally terrible board design, many still survive a while.

But, soon enough the updates slow the device down massively and eventually updates are no longer available and the device cannot run the "newest software" and the device is a brick.

@Suiseiseki @sally @Pi_rat

Xorg is available GNU/Hurd. So GUI should be there.

@redstarfish @Suiseiseki @Pi_rat

The problem's the GPUs and kernel, not the software.

Not sure if my 32bit ThinkPad Tablet can handle Linux, since it's memory isn't really big.
(I worry that I'll mess up my computers if I'm not careful, but I always worry if I screw up on switching to Linux tbh.)
(I seriously wish pre-installed Linux laptops aren't so pricey man...Since I use Firefox as my main browser, and I'll archive my files into my TB harddrive.)

@Purp1Lady @Pi_rat @sally GNU Linux-libre compiles and works fine on i686 core atom CPUs with <1GB RAM (but that also requires using decent software like GNU with Linux).

GNU/Linux distros usually come with a live image, so you can test to see if everything needed works before making any changes to the harddrive.

For an i686 computer that you want a GUI on, any distro that still supports 32 bit and you can install LXDE or LXQT or maybe xfce4 on.

For the free GNU/Linux-libre distros; https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.en.html Hyperbola, Parabola and Guix do support 32bit, but 2 of those are annoying to use, since Arch and although Trisquel has dropped 32 bit support, old copies of the 32 bit version does work.


You can't brick a computer by installing GNU/Linux - you could only possible render it unbooting until you fixed the reason it isn't booting with a live image or otherwise.

The most reliable install method is to just format the drive and avoid dualbooting (if there are multiple drives and you want to keep the data on some of them, you physically unplug them to make sure).

Installers are now quite simple now - there's only ever problems caused by restricted boot (called secure boot) and windows wiping out the GRUB OS.