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How big are switch games even? With modern ~100gb games the cartridge is prob half the 80 bucks price tag
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@snacks Probably huge, as why bother optimizing when there's all this cartridge space available?
100GB of flash memory at scale doesn't cost very much - you can get a 128GB microsd card for 17.99 USD (although such flash is slow garbage and at that price point there are many fakes) - I suspect a 100 GB cartridge will cost ~12USD per unit at quality, as well you can flash with poor endurance, as it needs to be flashed once or twice?
100GB of flash memory at scale doesn't cost very much - you can get a 128GB microsd card for 17.99 USD (although such flash is slow garbage and at that price point there are many fakes) - I suspect a 100 GB cartridge will cost ~12USD per unit at quality, as well you can flash with poor endurance, as it needs to be flashed once or twice?
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@Suiseiseki i'm not sure if game updates get put on the cartridge or console, but moat games need a lot of updates nowadays. I'd also imagine nintendo charges a decent premium for the privilege of using the cartridges
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@snacks It looks like game updates go onto the console's internal storage or the microsd card, as I don't see any partition for game updates in the cartridge filesystem; https://switchbrew.org/wiki/XCI
Custom flash memory with a TSOP-48 footprint is used - maybe it could be EEPROM - but even PROM would work; https://switchbrew.org/wiki/Cartridge
It seems there is no write-enable pin and therefore writing is not possible; https://switchbrew.org/wiki/Cartridge#Pinout
Custom flash memory with a TSOP-48 footprint is used - maybe it could be EEPROM - but even PROM would work; https://switchbrew.org/wiki/Cartridge
It seems there is no write-enable pin and therefore writing is not possible; https://switchbrew.org/wiki/Cartridge#Pinout
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@snacks @Suiseiseki
cartriges are read-only, all updates and dlc get stored in system memory or SD cards.
For your first question I know that 64 GB is the top end in storage for retail copies, but there's also smaller ones.
For Switch 2 I got no idea, there's only 1 non-nintendo physical game anyway (at least even nintendoddlers don't seem to buy the decryption handshake cards and third parties are slowly getting the message). The SD Exress cards arguably are not that cheap, which probably contributed to the game-keycard scam
cartriges are read-only, all updates and dlc get stored in system memory or SD cards.
For your first question I know that 64 GB is the top end in storage for retail copies, but there's also smaller ones.
For Switch 2 I got no idea, there's only 1 non-nintendo physical game anyway (at least even nintendoddlers don't seem to buy the decryption handshake cards and third parties are slowly getting the message). The SD Exress cards arguably are not that cheap, which probably contributed to the game-keycard scam
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@sally isn't cyberpunk on the switch? Or switch 2 or we
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@sally pretty sure witcher 3 is also over 20gb unless they packaged super downscaled textures
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Sally (evil)
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@dagda @snacks
Skyrim is a technical aberration that failed all the time no matter the platform. Skyrim is one of the very few games that gave me the worst headaches to get working on Wine, because of all this dotNEET and such proprietary dependency degeneracy, and even then the audio decoder never worked, not even they know what decoding libraries this shit uses and why it's not shipped with the game copy itself.
Skyrim is a technical aberration that failed all the time no matter the platform. Skyrim is one of the very few games that gave me the worst headaches to get working on Wine, because of all this dotNEET and such proprietary dependency degeneracy, and even then the audio decoder never worked, not even they know what decoding libraries this shit uses and why it's not shipped with the game copy itself.
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@sally @dagda not sure, prob the first one here https://lutris.net/games/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-special-edition/
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Sally (evil)
sally@freesoftwareextremist.com
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Sally (evil)
sally@freesoftwareextremist.com
@snacks @dagda
Two lines of plain text, because that's all this is: https://lutris.net/games/install/11935/view
Steam is the thing doing the heavy lifting, they might as well just tell you to go ahead and click "install" on Steam instead.
Two lines of plain text, because that's all this is: https://lutris.net/games/install/11935/view
Steam is the thing doing the heavy lifting, they might as well just tell you to go ahead and click "install" on Steam instead.
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@sally @snacks
>see Lutris installation script
>look inside
>steam CLI instruction "just download the vanilla game please"
look inside cat
>see Lutris installation script
>look inside
>steam CLI instruction "just download the vanilla game please"
look inside cat
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sally@freesoftwareextremist.com
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