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I took the strong shit again. On one hand glad no pain, but zero people to talk to at 2:30.
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@w0rm then, thoughts on this? Also I might as well cc @f0x and @p since they seem to know this topic well.
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@MK2boogaloo @f0x @w0rm @p why would you "worry" that we've hit a ceiling on tech? how much does it improve your life to have something "better" (but not actually better) every single year? this nigga addicted to consumption I think. he looks like a redditard
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@@MK2boogaloo@freebeerextremist.com

She wouldn't know. He's sleeping.
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@bajax @w0rm @MK2boogaloo @p self inflationary and ass kissing markets growing seemingly forever while brainwashing the population is annoying and worrysome but shrug.
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@f0x @w0rm @MK2boogaloo @p the old saying, they'll get what they deserve, but we'll also get what they deserve
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@bajax @w0rm @MK2boogaloo @p except they never get what they deserve. not while living at least.
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@f0x @w0rm @MK2boogaloo @p I was referring to the soyim there but I don't think big-number-brained people are happy either
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@MK2boogaloo @w0rm @f0x That's more or less accurate, yeah. I like somewhat more vertical resolution for reading PDFs but I just got an even older 1600x1200 monitor (currently not set up; temporary space constraints) for that.
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@f0x @bajax @MK2boogaloo @w0rm You know, one thing about the stupid cyberypunk game was that they'd do this, like, 10-pixel-tall text and I'd have to get up and walk across the room to read it. Back before the big 1080p switch, I never had to see an actor's nose-hairs in my own goddamn home. NEVER.

Well, seriously, though, extremely high-res stuff does better with aliasing and that is nice for text but it's an order of magnitude more cost/power for an incremental improvement in readability.
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@f0x @bajax @MK2boogaloo @w0rm "The gods' wrath may be fierce, but it certainly is slow."
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@p @bajax @w0rm @MK2boogaloo i watch videos in 360p for the same reason i almost always have one ear off my headphones. some sort of sensory claustrophobic shit. that and my love of pixel and low res polygonal art makes me immune to being a graphics fag.
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@f0x @MK2boogaloo @bajax @w0rm I'm just over here on ratpoison, one big window, some small gauges on the left and behind it is the left edge of this image, which I got from samuraikid. (If you haven't watched Evangelion, Ritsuko and Misato have very different approaches to debugging. Also you should watch it.)
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@p @bajax @w0rm @MK2boogaloo for some reason I was under the impression NGE was longer than it is. i'll give it a watch.
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@f0x @MK2boogaloo @bajax @w0rm 26 episodes and one movie. I have good copies. (Rebuild is a very different thing, three alternative timeline movies, some of it's stupid and some of it's interesting; it *looks* very nice, though. They also changed some of the designs in trivial ways and added a useless character in order to ensure that more figurines sold.)
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@p @bajax @f0x @w0rm @MK2boogaloo
Rebuild becomes largely a meta-narrative after the first two movies, especially 3.33.
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@p @bajax @f0x @w0rm @MK2boogaloo
That almost sounds sarcastic.

I think that the movies are really about letting go. Particularly in the context of Evangelion as a franchise. Like, at the End of 2.22 when Shinji grabs Rei from out of the core of the Eva, it causes another impact. When it goes into the third movie, I think it’s no coincidence that Shinji, being the audience self insert character, hasn’t grown up, whilst everyone else has. The pilot Asuka also hasn’t grown up either, she calls the phenomenon ‘The curse of Eva’, which is a little on the nose I think, referring to fans attitude towards the show. The whole movie is Shinji refusing to let go, attempting to get the world back to it’s original state and fix the mess he made by refusing to let go in the first place, in which he only continues to create more problems. He goes back to NERV, which is now just a shell, and to his father, who also hasn’t let go. He continues NERV, even with basically no employees or pilots, because he still wishes to instigate instrumentality, because he hasn’t let go of his wife.

I could probably keep going, but I think the central theme of is holding on/letting go. The movie is even called “You Can (Not) Redo”, clearly referring to the past and mistakes. The movies title is referring to Shinji still attempting to undo what he did, but he can’t. That is what the movie is about.

Relating this to it's meta narrative, I think the whole thing is about fans' relationship with the show. I think you're supposed to root for Shinji pulling out Rei at the end of 2.22. In that moment, you're just like Shinji, holding on to this show and the past. I think it's also not a coincidence that the first two movies are basically just a retelling of Evangelion, except maybe even more cheery (think, Asuka making dinner for Shinji). The rebuilds are almost like a reminiscing of Evangelion.

It's no secret that Eva fans are quite obsessive. In a way, I think the rebuilds are almost telling fans to 'let go' of Evangelion and it's characters. I think Anno felt almost bound by Evangelion, to this day it's the most popular thing in his creative career without competition. I think in many ways, he wants rid of it. Hell, I think he wanted rid of it by the End of Evangelion.

(I don't think I explained this all too well, I'm sure there's a better relation of 3.33's story and it's meta narrative somewhere else online, but that's the gist of it.)
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@yomiel @MK2boogaloo @bajax @f0x @w0rm

> That almost sounds sarcastic.

It was not. I am looking for a reason to appreciate Rebuild for reasons other than "higher-budget animation".

> Like, at the End of 2.22

On the other hand, maybe spoiler alert people that have not seen the thing.

> The movie is even called “You Can (Not) Redo”, clearly referring to the past and mistakes.

Okay, that's clever. They fuckin' MGS2'd Eva. I wasn't really expecting that because Abenobashi was basically that already. I think a lot of subtlety slipped past me because I kept having to keep a finger on the volume button because they mixed the goddamn explosions at "actual explosion" decibels.

I probably should have expected this, since the original series had a very strong "Look how fucking stupid all of these giant robot shows are, and now that we got your attention with the giant robots, we're going to ruin giant robots and then show you the thing we *actually* wanted to show you".

> to this day it's the most popular thing in his creative career without competition.

To be fair, all of his other stuff is about terrible events and aggressive women happening to a wuss that is coming of age.

> Hell, I think he wanted rid of it by the End of Evangelion.

I think he wanted to get his point out and End of Eva was a pretty good end.

> I don't think I explained this all too well

No, you did. I'll rewatch at some point.
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@p @bajax @f0x @w0rm @MK2boogaloo
>They fuckin' MGS2'd Eva.
This is an apt comparison, because just like MGS2, if you don't realize that it's meta, you will enjoy it far less. The big difference is 3.33 doesn't hit you over the head like MGS2 does telling you that it's meta.

I honestly didn't realize until a friend IRL explained it to me, and I definitely enjoyed it more upon a rewatch.
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@f0x @bajax @w0rm @MK2boogaloo @p it's a good thing that monitors can't be a crutch for anything - you send garbage pixels, your client sees garbage.
because for CPUs the new generation being faster means you can use JS webapps for your desktop UI and tell your goyim customers to get better hardware for something people were able to do better 20 years ago, even if they never actually do anything computationally intensive.
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