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society is so broken that young ppl think work is unironically a bad thing when in reality we need to be doing something productive in our lives in some form, or else we lose our mind over time

but i think with how our economic relations are set up labor mostly causes despair and burnout instead of helping you grow and become more grounded in life like it's supposed to. modern society is also completely missing the balance with free time and leisure
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obviously this also misses that there are many fruitful and productive things that aren't considered real labor under capitalism
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@lizzy the effects of labor alienation are often mistaken for doing labor at all

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@lizzy People confuse labour with exploitation and abuse. When profits aren't properly distributed this is what you get. Indeed you can ask yourself, what is the point.

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@lizzy this is why pro-capitalists’ argument “but some people would do nothing” makes no sense
has anyone in the history of ever wanted to do literally fuck and all with their life? you might think that’s what you do from breaks from work or school or whatever, but that’s really just starting the long process of recovering from allostatic load, something no-one ever gets to complete before having to go back

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@lizzy
the new social contract
- 5 day, 30 hour week
- state mandated alt gf
- 15-minute walkable cities
- billionaires available for trying out funny historical props from late 18th century france
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@lizzy ive been reading through Workers' Councils and i like the way pannekoek puts it:

Still then labor, being labor under capitalism, keeps its innermost character of inhuman toil: the workers, compelled by the threat of hunger to strain their forces at foreign command, for foreign profit, without genuine interest, in the monotonous fabrication of uninteresting or bad things, driven to the utmost of what the overworked body can sustain, are used up at an early age. Ignorant economists, unacquainted with the nature of capitalism, seeing the strong aversion of the workers from their work, conclude that productive work, by its very nature, is repulsive to man, and must be imposed on unwilling mankind by strong means of constraint.

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