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Who wants to help me make foss decentralized steam (no games except tux racer)
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@sun I would help test it and maybe ask devs make katawa shojo
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>no Cube games
>no Xonotic
I'm sorry, this is doa.
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@sun there's luanti, a bunch of arena shooters and lots of visual novels you could distribute.
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@snacks the real question is what do you name it
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@sun @snacks supertuxgimp (game installation management program)
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@sun possible names:
riffing off of steam:
steampunk
punk
anhydrous
dessicated
dry
autoclave
frost

riffing off of game:
play
spill (used to be synonymous with play)
game
ludo

riffing off of free software:
liberate
free
freedom
libre
source

just mashing some of the above words together:
freeplay (already a word, may be a good thing or bad)
gamepunk
librefrost
liberate ludo
sourcepunk
freepunk
dryspill (sounds more like a cleaning product?)
ludofree / freeludo (might already exist as a free Ludo (a board game) implementation)
ludo libre
regnumludorum (latin for "realm/kingdom of games")...
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@sun @pwm You might be able to petition steam to make a linux-only proton powered store
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@phnt you forgot the other id Tech engines blobcatgoogly


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@shinyoukai @sun Xonotic runs on a modified version of the Quake 3 engine 02smug
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@sun If what you are providing is the rich presence/friends/networking etc I've long thought it would be doable with p2p things like the dht. Very doable I think. Marketplace is harder to decentralize unless you're talking about like, p2p based file distribution and payments facilitated by e.g. crypto rather than cc's
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@sun I guess the question is, what part of the problem are you trying to solve? The whole thing? a drop in replacement?
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@sun @HatkeshiatorTND "valorant" is not in the ludoers file. this incident will be reported
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@phnt @shinyoukai @sun they switched engines? Used to be darkplaces which is a fork of q1 engine
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when daemons can code an app for you in an afternoon the real scarcity will be usable names that mean anything at all

there's already that meme that goes

>Working at any office is like “Ok we’re transitioning to Salarya, but payroll is still in Bullfrog—did you see my Noosecock post? Submit your timecard on Fireplayce then jizz me on Smackdog . Do NOT upload to Crackerz without Yammer approval

meanwhile a common noun/verb is going to refer to a dozen different apps on top of the dictionary definition

and it's only going to get worse
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@hakui i will not jizz you up on smackdog wtf
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@snacks @shinyoukai @sun Oh well, remembered it badly. It is DarkPlaces.
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@pwm tbh I want a platform that allows crypto games but enforces quality controls
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@lain ok well we won't be able to process your Glibcs on Maharaja then, just making sure you know that
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@hakui let’s circle back once we have all asks locked in
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@lain @hakui i have "favorited" and "repeated" your "status" on "pleroma"

... or as i've recently taken to calling it, "fediverse/pleroma"
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@sun You're going to probably wind up just like steam, make a marketplace, make some games for yourself (high quality) and police it. You're probably not going to "decentralize" QC.
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@sun you are also also probably going to have to incorporate in Cypress :)
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@pwm tbh I have a lot of goals and many of them are in conflict with one another. Add to this no body wants a crypto platform except grifters and naive idiots
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@sun I think you'll need to pilot it with high-quality first-party games to showcase what's possible, teebeeaych. Whether that's slots, or genshin impact or fifa but spectators can bet on it eg. etc if you just build infra, it's not going anywhere. If you build a product that uses the infra you made then it's still a gamble but not a certainty that it will be disregarded, like building a railroad without trains.
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@pwm if we did this we release first party games that don’t suck
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@pwm reality: this is never seeing even a poc
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@sun it would be a big undertaking.
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@pwm please god give me the chance to build crypto steam that doesn’t suck
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@sun let me know when you're hiring :^)
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@pwm electron wasm webgl

Are you man enough
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@sun Not within but not without my wheelhouse either.
Man enough, sure.
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@sun @pwm my game's not foss but you should just throw it on there anyway

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@pwm basically if you’re making a crypto game shithole you need super good sandboxing
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@sun So you're planning on using the browser to sandbox them away from the system? You'll be in luck for like, anything written in C that can transpile but does for example, godot or anything have a webasm target?
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@pwm both unity and godot I believe have browser targeting
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@pwm this is still
Basically a niche system you’ll never get a aaa game on it
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@sun AAA isn't your market. More like souped up facebook/newgrounds type shit. Your target is basically candy crush and genshin impact players so I don't think that's a worry. if you could get pygame (I'm assuming what every visual novel is written in) running on it you'd have six kajillion weaboo dollars pouring in every 30 seconds.
Gamblers, coomers, people not trying to "game" really.
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@sun I guess I'm saying you're trying to use the game as a medium for something else, people who have extrinsic motivations to the thing itself,. even if it's "good" per se
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@sun I mean it definitely sounds plausibly achievable. Would take capital, investors, all that crap.
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@twinspin6 @snacks @sun "it's called water because it's free in theory but somehow you're paying a megacorp for it because they poisoned the ones you can get on your own"
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@sun @HatkeshiatorTND dont use just Ludo it already is giga overused, transform the word somehow
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@sun
>no games except tux racer
And OpenMW.
And Hedgewars.
And Unciv
And Freesims.
And fc-pregmod
And Shattered Pixel Dungeon
And Luanti (formerly mineclone)
And Mindustry
and...
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@mangeurdenuage @sun Those aren't even the best games.

There's ultimatestunts, speed-dreams-2, lugaru, freedink, xmoto, powermanga, tecnoballz, emilia-pinball, endless-sky, supertransball2, tomatoes and gnujump, just to name a few.
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@lain ok i'll bungee you on rhodesia
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alchemy is actually just a medieval HR app ecosystem

>ok i'll distill your sulfur and mercury and pass you back your red stone so you can turn those lead into gold
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future generations will be trying to has it from poob when poob isn't even literal poob
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time isn't even the scarcest resource anymore, it's meaning and attention now
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@mangeurdenuage @sun
>OpenMW
if you're counting engines with no assets the single best open smeg game is probably Barony but it failed to build with openal last time I checked
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@sun If I ever get off my ass and make a game with the engine I'm "working on", I'll put it on there, sure.

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@mangeurdenuage @sun And Shapez, I think: https://github.com/tobspr-games/shapez-community-edition

Mindustry is great tho. I was shocked it was on f-droid. It's so high quality I didn't think it was free software.

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@VD15 @mangeurdenuage @sun
yeah I was shocked to learn that about mindustry too


also hot take supertuxcart is a bad game
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@sun I can complain about things without providing any meaningful input
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@sun @HatkeshiatorTND
LibreAutoclave seems to have the right degree of autism for a true opensource project name marseyemojismilemoutheyes
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@hakui @HatkeshiatorTND @sun
Has anyone tried making an NN-powered privilege elevation tool that would e.g. detect unusual activities in the logs and deny access? marseyhmm
Bonus points for becoming sentient at some point and locking you out of your own systems marseytroublemaker
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@m0xEE @HatkeshiatorTND @sun i don't know how to make one but we can call it hal9000
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