Never forget. You are always just one email away from having your ideological prophet fuck bitches on your couch.

@newt im sure some of the people on twkn would love for this to happen to them, nevermind the gnu jihadist

@kirby actually, @SuperDicq hosted once. But he passionately denies there were any hookers involved.

@newt @kirby I didn’t host him myself, but I did stay at the same place where rms and a bunch of other GNU people were staying. I also drove rms around Switzerland for a few hours.

@SuperDicq @kirby see? Still in denial.

@newt @kirby Yes, no hookers of course. He was with Dora Scilipoti.

I also don’t really believe the story OP is talking about either. Are there any sources to back this up? That behavior seems very unlike Stallman to me.

@SuperDicq @newt @kirby
Why would people lie on the interwebs ?

@SuperDicq @newt @kirby multiple people that have attacked rms exposed that they consider it moral to lie about him to bring him down. well, now I don't believe any of them anymore.

@sun @newt @kirby
I think it is quite interesting inconsistent all these fake people who claim they have hosted Stallman are in their stories.

• He’s an absolutely terrible autistic virgin who is super awkward with women
  Or
• Women absolutely love him and he fucks random bitches all the time

@SuperDicq @newt @kirby one guy, who I will not name, got argued all the way into admitting his claims were untrue, then when asked to stop making them, still said no lol

@sun @newt @kirby People also really like to assume that he’s like super autistic virgin loner or and someshit.

But that’s not true at all. He’s got a regular private life with family and friends, but he just keeps those things private and away from the internet.

And the fact that little is publicly known about his private life is unfortunately what makes people fill in the blanks with that terrible bullshit I think.

@sun @newt @kirby If you’re talking about Drew Devault you can just say so dude

@SuperDicq @newt @kirby virtue signalers love to say we don't support neurodivergent people enough but they are the first people to throw them under the bus because they think everyone is just faking it like them for attention when real neurodivergence manifests in socially inconvenient ways sometimes.

@newt @kirby @SuperDicq I need hookers so I can host a hookers only uno tournament

@sun @SuperDicq @kirby @newt all I know about rms is he is a human

@sun @kirby @SuperDicq I would totally believe in complete nonchalance and lack of boundaries. Seems consistent with his email style.

@sun @kirby @SuperDicq @newt miguel de icaza worked for ms until 2022

@bonifartius @sun @kirby @newt Oh right it’s that Miguel de Icaza. I knew I recognized the name from somewhere.

Whatever he says he is definitely not someone who is to be trusted.

@bonifartius @sun @kirby @newt From the man himself: https://www.osnews.com/story/22225/rms-de-icaza-traitor-to-free-software-community/

@sun god i encountered that so many times. "just read the room" "how are you so autistic" "get some emotional intelligence" and similar bullshit
@SuperDicq @kirby @newt

@bonifartius @sun @kirby @newt I know Miguel is “the founder” of a bunch of notable free software projects.

But I also don’t have very high opinion of the “founder” type people who only are here to “found” projects and then immediately leave to go “found” something and instead of actually sticking with the thing and growing it to fulfillment.

@SuperDicq @sun @kirby @bonifartius huh? What would be "fulfilment" in case of say GNOME? He spent a good three years working on it, before switching to Xamarin/mono/other C# stuff for over two decades before leaving it in 2022. Seems quite fulfilling here.

@newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius Have you used GNOME 1.0?

@newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius I mean I get it though. Yes he made sure it was completed to version 1.0 which can count as “fulfillment”, but it is very different from people like Stallman who dedicate their entire life to the movement instead of just a few years and then move on to something else.

@SuperDicq @sun @kirby @bonifartius
>Have you used GNOME 1.0?

Only briefly a few years ago, as a historic curiosity. Seemed consistent with other UIs of the time, like KDE 1 or Windows 98/2000. Sorry, I don't buy the idea that one must maintain his software into eternity. There's more fun to be had in this world.

Then again, I'm not sure what has done other than writing emails, giving speeches, and maintaining Emacs. He certainly hasn't succeeded in giving birth to any kind of GNU OS or a free (as in speech) computer of any kind.

@newt
Hella charisma for someone that looks the poster child of a Reddit mod.

@newt @kirby @SuperDicq @sun he wrote gcc

@bonifartius @kirby @SuperDicq @sun and then abandoned it in favour of other projects, just like what SuperDicq accuses de Icaza of.

@newt @bonifartius @kirby @sun Just because Stallman is no longer a programmer doesn’t mean he has abandoned it. He is still Chief GNUisance the leader of the GNU Project.

Abandoning it like Miguel would mean he now would go around suggesting people should use MSVC instead.

@SuperDicq @sun @kirby @bonifartius he mostly abandoned GCC by the early to mid 90s. Also, he did enough damage to the project that a lot of people switched to LLVM.

@newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius People switched to LLVM because they are proprietary software lackeys that don’t want to abide by copyleft and give other people the same freedom they have.

@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius
>He is still Chief GNUisance the leader of the GNU Project.
He was always more of a GNU/Nuisance for every GNU project he inserted himself into for sharing his opinions on how things should be done (universally bad takes).

@SuperDicq @sun @kirby @bonifartius no, that's not the only reason. was very vocal against splitting GCC into separate backend and frontend parts and stabilising the IR. This alone had done massive damage to Linux development tooling for years. We could have had working autocomplete, error highlighting, and other cool things in the early 2000s. Instead, we had to wait for clangd for another 15 years.

Btw LLVM is free software. As in freedom.

@newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius Yes, some implementations of LLVM is free. Using a free version of LLVM is not a sin, but a penance.

@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius

give other people the same freedom they have.

GNU isn't about freedom, it's about forcing restrictions on everybody else.

@SuperDicq @sun @kirby @bonifartius look, you can jester all you want. But it's a well known fact that through his influence has held open source (or free, or whatever you want to call it) software back and caused a lot of irreparable damage. This is really why I despise his character, not because he screwed some hookers or said nasty things to people.

@phnt @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius Telling others to pass on the same freedoms that they have is not a restriction, silly.

@phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun GNU is about maintaining Emacs. That's basically all the project is good at.

@phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @sun @newt is someone going around with a gun, forcing people to use gpl licensed software?

@bonifartius @kirby @SuperDicq @sun @newt Yes

@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius s/telling/forcing

Read the license, it is not a choice.

@phnt @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius You shouldn’t be allowed to take other people’s freedom away. For reasons things like murder are illegal.

@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius Correct, I should have freedom to use your software however I want and do whatever I want with it. But GPL is not compatible with that, owner of the copyright is a dictator that forces restrictions on how the software is used, modified and distributed.

@phnt @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius Copyleft is not a restriction, it is freedom preservation.

If you were already doing the right in the first place (making free software), the GPL doesn’t do anything.

@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius mental gymnastics

@SuperDicq @bonifartius @kirby @newt @sun Let's take your thinking exactly as you say. License everything under OpenWatcom/Sybase. If you are writing free software already, you intend to share it with the public right? Isn't that what everybody should be doing, sharing their code?

@phnt @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius Why should taking other people’s freedom away be allowed?

@phnt @bonifartius @kirby @newt @sun No, of course not, the Sybase Open Watcom Public License is a nonfree license. It has actual restrictions unlike the GPLv3 where it for example requires you make all your changes public.

@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius So when a license has stronger freedom preservation and protection, it's suddenly no free. Alright.

@SuperDicq @bonifartius @kirby @newt @sun nonfree*

@phnt @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius Requirimng people to publish their private modifications has nothing to do with freedom preservation.

@SuperDicq @phnt @sun @kirby @bonifartius
>For reasons things like murder are illegal.

I hate to break it to you...

@newt @phnt @sun @kirby @bonifartius In my country any form of murder is illegal, and I consider countries that have a legalized forms of murder, such as the death penalty, to be very uncivilized.

@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius Yes it does. I can modify GPL code however I want, but as long as I keep it internal, I don't have to share it with anyone. There are companies I know that have private kernel patches that will never be shared upstream and they are internal. Perfectly legitimate thing to do according to GPL. How is that freedom respecting and inline with the GPL spirit. It's simple, it isn't.

@phnt @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius It is completely freedom respecting to keep private changes to yourself. You have a right to privacy. You are not denying anyone freedom by keeping private things private.

@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius So it is freedom respecting to keep private changes to yourself, but it is not freedom respecting to keep changes for your products you sell to yourself. Whose freedom are you breaking then?

@phnt @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius If you are are selling software and you are not willing to give them the source code, you are denying your users the freedom to modify it.

@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius And you are not denying your users the freedom to modify it, when you are using a private change that makes you higher profits that isn't the product you are selling itself? The product only benefits from those changes and aren't in the product itself. Aren't you denying the freedom to modify and include that change to everyone upstream?

@phnt @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius I don’t even understand what you’re trying to say here.

On private code you are not denying your users anything because there are no users except yourself.

@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius I've described the typical SaaS scenario. Kernel has a private change that does not need to be public, but the product, a webapp, uses that change for higher profits, in other words, you still selling a product, you've just hidden the private change one layer down. Effectively doing the exact thing that GPL enthusiasts laugh at BSD/MIT for enabling.

@phnt @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius SaaSS is indeed proprietary. To solve this issue that’s what we have AGPLv3 license for.

@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius Even the AGPL does not solve that. The webapp can be free software under AGPL using a feature nobody else has access to. And licensing the kernel under AGPL would be a licensing disaster.

@phnt @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius That’s true the AGPLv3 only guarantees freedom for the software the user directly interacts with and not the other software on the system, such as the kernel.

And yes, it is true that the GPL license family doesn’t solve all freedom issues, but it is a good attempt to do so, much better than permissive licenses.

@SuperDicq @bonifartius @kirby @newt @sun The only way to solve the issue is to use Sybase or abolish copyright and make exfiltrating private source code legal.

Or how will you make the kernel comply with the requirement to give you a pointer to it's source. Reserve a port that when you hit with Telnet, prints you the links for every public device running Linux on the planet?

@phnt @bonifartius @kirby @newt @sun No, Sybase is a deeply flawed license philosophically. It doesn’t solve software freedom issues.

If I interact with your webapp I don’t need the source code of the kernel that you use. I am not directly interacting with your kernel. That is acceptable.

@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius Depends on the interpretation. You are interacting with a public machine running a kernel hypothetically licensed under AGPL. You are not only interacting with a web app, but also with the server running that web app with TCP/IP.

@SuperDicq @bonifartius @kirby @newt @sun Of course kernel unter Sybase also solves this, because you have to publish the changes no matter what.

@phnt @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius What is the issue here? If I want to run a local copy of the webapp, I can still do that without your custom kernel.

@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius The webapp doesn't have to run without a modified kernel. Or any dependency it needs for that matter. Even a modified PHP would fly if PHP was GPL licensed.

@phnt @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius If your AGPL licensed program has proprietary dependencies, it is not free software.

@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius Doesn't have to be proprietary. If you wanna be really evil, it can be a GPL interpreter with a custom private encryption scheme that decrypts the AGPLed webapp on the fly. Effectively exactly what is Denuvo and VMProtect, but with a GPL dependency whose source does not have to be published and a AGPL webapp.

@SuperDicq @bonifartius @kirby @newt @sun You can release the encrypted/obfuscated source code under AGPL and users are left in the dark.

@phnt @bonifartius @kirby @newt @sun If you’re releasing the source code in obfuscated or encrypted form only you’re not abiding by the AGPL correctly.

@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius I think you could get away with it rather easily. The AGPL is mostly just GPL with a network clause that basically says, if it is available over the network, you have to make the source public. GPL does not talk about obfuscated or encrypted source code, it only talks about source code and binary form. And obfuscated code that demangles on the fly isn't a binary form.

At worst, the license does not apply and you don't have to release it if you own the copyright for everything.

@phnt @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius

GPL does not talk about obfuscated or encrypted source code, it only talks about source code and binary form.
No, you are mistaken. It talks about “Corresponding Source” which is defined as the “the preferred form of the work for making modifications to it”.

An obfuscated or encrypted source code is obviously not “the preferred form”. No court is going is going to agree with is.

@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius Still, point still stands. You have to either abolish copyright or use Sybase unless you accept being cucked by an already abused loophole that effectively nullifies what the GPL stands for and turns it into a BSD license. Unless you sell a product directly with the change or it's in a user facing public webapp.

@phnt @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius

Debunk the point
Point still stands
That’s not how a discussion works bruh

@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius Nope, I'm taking about my previous point before you sidetracked the thread into a tangent why AGPL fixes this (it still doesn't, you just can't fully DRM the source).

@SuperDicq @bonifartius @kirby @newt @sun https://fluffytail.org/notice/B4KGoycyWiGpAxoIfg

@SuperDicq @bonifartius @kirby @newt @sun Also the web app can still depend on a private change to a GPL dependency. AGPL allows GPL dependencies and thus allows this unintended behavior.

@phnt @bonifartius @kirby @newt @sun Like I said before if it has nonfree depedencies that makes the software nonfree, despite it having a AGPLv3 license.

@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius GPL is a free license. It just allows you to do this loophole.

@SuperDicq @phnt @sun @kirby @bonifartius
>No court is going is going to agree with is.

Here's the funny thing tho. How many times have courts upheld GPL over the years? A dozen or so?

How much money was spent on those litigations? Hundreds of thousands if not millions per case? How much time does it take on average to enforce GPL in court? Last I checked, it was from several years to upwards of a decade.

GPL is wishful thinking at best.

@newt @phnt @sun @kirby @bonifartius Usually these cases are settled outside of court for way less money because the license is solid and the parties often do not want to go to court over it.

@newt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun remember that the fsf had to be essentially dragged into the neo4j case after it threatened the legitimacy of the GPL. They didn't really want to get involved until then.

@newt @SuperDicq @bonifartius @kirby @sun Last time the GPL had actual teeth was with NeXt and the objc gcc frontend. Nothing major since then.

@SuperDicq @phnt @sun @kirby @bonifartius
>usually

citation needed. Because I'm well aware of dozens upon dozens of GPL violations. Hell, I own several devices running Linux with vendors refusing to disclose any code whatsoever.

What's worse, Linux Foundation member companies have been known to shit on GPL too. VMWare is especially notorious at this.

@newt @phnt @sun @kirby @bonifartius The Linux Foundation doesn’t care about enforcing the GPL. It’s a really bad foundation.

@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius It doesn't care about Linux either.

@phnt @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius Yes indeed.

@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius Newt is jerking your chains.

@SuperDicq @phnt @sun @kirby @bonifartius i dunno, it seems to be very good at what it does. Also, it's pretty funny that most of its member corporations have found their success on top of GPL code. It almost seems that the unintended consequence of GPL is big corpos. We wouldn't have had Goolag without GPL.

@phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun @newt
There's a reason why you're forbidden to be able to forbid in general, such rule should be applied in computing too, which is what the GPL does.

@phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun @newt True it care about how spending those quarter of a billion in inclusivity and whatnot, anything but actual software freedom.

@mangeurdenuage @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun @newt

which is what the GPL does

It does not. GPL in every way is freedom restricting compared to any other free license except Sybase. The whole point of it is to restrict what you are allowed to do with the code and when you have to distribute it. There's nothing "freedom" about that. 0BSD is much freedom respecting, it says you can do anything with it except that there's no warranty. That's a true freedom respecting license. The freedom to use, modify and distribute software however you like.

You can also blame my stance exactly on opinions of people like you. I didn't use to have these opinions until I read posts like these every other day.

@newt @phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun
If the GPL wasn't a threat to proprietary entities they wouldn't invest in permissive licensing and re write libraries in another license etc.. , they wouldn't subvert communities with inclusivity and personality slander, they wouldn't lobby shitting out the worst possible laws in existence etc...
GPL works, otherwise these "violations" wouldn't actually be just legal loopholes and state interpretation.
We already know where the permissive proprietary path leads us, if you want to go that path be my guest I'll even suggest you to accelerate outcome and dig your own grave.

@phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun @newt
We have too much different experience of the world to agree on anything.
In some sense I'd wish you to know mine but I wouldn't wish you to know how bad modern slavery is.

@mangeurdenuage @phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun GPL isn't a threat to big corpos. Otherwise Microsoft wouldn't be among the largest Linux Foundation donors.

As for the rest, freetard autists are happy to slander themselves and each other all day every day. Drew Devault wasn't paid to harass last I checked, he did it entirely for the love of the game.

@newt @phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun
>he did it entirely for the love of the game.
He did it because like most people in the computer world, is mentally ill.
https://dmpwn.info/

@mangeurdenuage @phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun I agree. Dedicating an entire dossier to is a sign of mental distress. No corporate slander required tho.

@mangeurdenuage @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun @newt

We already know where the permissive proprietary path leads us,

Yes, I know where the path leads. To less broken GNU software, because they finally will have competition. So far the less GNU on my systems, the less broken they are. Mysterious, I know.

@newt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @mangeurdenuage @sun

last I checked, he did it entirely for the love of the game.

He still does. Just not as frequently. The next time you seem some nonsensical software related drama on here, check his blog. The likelihood it came from there is rather high.

@phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun @newt
>will have competition
Lol. Competition between black boxes, what a silly concept, as if the 70s/80s didn't experience that already.
Be ready to pay for each individual compiler option fuck boy

>the less broken it is. Mysterious,
Funnily my experience is the reverse, the less proprietary software I have the less issues I have.

@mangeurdenuage @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun @newt

Lol. Competition between black boxes, what a silly concept, as if the 70s/80s didn't experience that already. Be ready to pay for each individual compiler option fuck boy

You have no idea how bad GCC would be today if llvm and clang didn't exist.

@phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun @newt
Imagine if we didn't have water, none of these wouldn't exist.

@mangeurdenuage @SuperDicq @bonifartius @kirby @newt @sun Also for extra fun, look who maintains most of your GNU projects. It's IBM via Red Hat as a proxy.

@phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @sun @newt

@phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @mangeurdenuage @sun GCC is still bad tho. It's one of the few compilers where you need a completely separate build for cross-compiling. If you wanna build a golang program for another architecture, you can just run GOARCH=arm GOOS=linux go build. Similarly, with clang: clang --target=aarch64-pc-linux. Meanwhile, GCC can't do this.

Basically, the main reason why people avoid cross-compiling and instead run native builds either on hardware or in VMs is because GNU tooling horribly sucks.

@newt @phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun
>they still going

@mangeurdenuage @phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun the testament to how much GNU sucks as a project and how huge of a failure as a leader was

@newt @phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun
Take your meds.

@newt @mangeurdenuage @phnt @kirby @bonifartius @sun This “failure of a leader” achieved a thousand times more than you ever will.

@SuperDicq @phnt @mangeurdenuage @sun @kirby @bonifartius true. Becoming an internet lolcow of this magnitude is clearly outside of my reach.

@newt @phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun
Better to eat one toe jam than diddle kids.
Again, take your meds 💊

@mangeurdenuage @phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun clearly stated they were presented as consenting and adult.

Now, do you really want me to pull up comments on sexual relations with minors and age of consent? Because I tried to avoid this subject here. The aforementioned Drew Devault made a nice list of them with references, by the way.

@newt @mangeurdenuage @phnt @kirby @bonifartius @sun Drew Devault has said worse things than Richard Stallman.

@newt @mangeurdenuage @phnt @kirby @bonifartius @sun And Stallman has apologized for his statements and retracted them, Devault pretends it never happened and tries to hide it.

@newt @phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun Oh you can but that would require you to actually pull out the FBI record of Maxwell and the MIT mailing list to actually have context of that moment.
Unlike most people I've been there, read it and it's a nothing burger.
Again schizo, take your meds.

@SuperDicq @newt @phnt @sun @kirby @bonifartius He lies, unlike RMS.

@SuperDicq @phnt @mangeurdenuage @sun @kirby @bonifartius what do you mean "apologised"? How can you "apologise" for having an opinion? You either do or you don't, and changing your opinion in the face of public pressure is just hypocritical and weak.

But that's beside the point. I'm trying to argue that was a bad leader for a software foundation and a bad maintainer for GNU projects. My arguments are listed above. Whatever he thinks about the age of consent and sexual relations is irrelevant here. I've no idea why @mangeurdenuage decided to pull this here.

@SuperDicq @newt @phnt @sun @kirby @bonifartius He apologized for a nothing burger tho. It's a was mistake to do so imo if people can't read, won't read and keep spreading bullshit then you can't do anything.

@newt @phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun I'm wondering if you're using an llm to generate your bullshit.

@newt @phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @mangeurdenuage @sun that french faggot is a unironically special needs and retarded. Thats why. DID YOU HEAR THAT YOU FROG EATING COCKSUCKER @mangeurdenuage .

@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius
>“I want to say that God loves all creatures. From the formidable elephant to the tiniest ant. And that includes Richard Stallman,”
holy truthnuke

@newt
i wonder if it's better to begin development with pro tools and then refactor a libre version. systematically get it built, get it good and get it refined.

@phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @mangeurdenuage @sun

@tobias @phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @mangeurdenuage @sun just use clang

@newt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @mangeurdenuage @sun Which is quite ironic when GNU/Autohell isn't that bad at setting up cross-compiling. If you already have the toolchain that is.

Another thing that GCC sucks at real bad along with GNU/Autohell is setting up static builds. I love passing --disable-shared/--enable-static and still have a binary that dynamically links to the libc. Completely disregarded the assignment and glibc not being statically linkable is not an excuse for this behavior.

@phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @mangeurdenuage @sun oh man..

Autohell is another reason to hate GNU and its leadership. Imagine the world where Autohell had been killed in the 90s and replaced with something like Meson, instead of having it dragged kicking and screaming well into the 2010s. The sheer amount of time that people have collectively spent on debugging m4 scripts is enormous. If I was level paranoid, I'd claim that Autohell was an intentional sabotage against open source ecosystems.

@kirby @newt I wouldn't really care if rms stayed around for 2 months.

Although, I would want him that he ask before bringing proprietary women in.

@newt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun Now that is a incredible stupid post - he was the one who started the GNU OS and ensured it survived.

If you actually look at many of the GNU packages, you'll realize that rms wrote a lot of the initial code, which of that, a lot of that still remains.

He also wrote most of the text in the GNU licenses, he wrote most of the Emacs manual (and still maintains it).

He also made a lot of careful project decisions - for example he carefully ensured GCC would remain free software for all of its users.

He currently doesn't really program anymore, as that's not really required - all the free software you could need exists and there are plenty of programmers - the issue he now mainly focuses on is that people don't even realize that freedom in software exists, which is why he gives speeches about it

@newt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun If that was done, there would be proprietary versions of GCC - he made the right call.

Linux infidels don't matter - real GNU programmers don't need autocomplete or error highlighting (if you need that, there is something wrong with the language).

It seems LLVM could be proprietary software for most of its users.

@newt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun He has ensured that free software has remained free - rms should only be congratulated for all his successful blows against proprietary degenerates (too bad the damage is not irreparable).

Why do you despise freedom?

@phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun @newt You clearly haven't read any of the GNU licenses.

You are not forced to distribute the software or make it do other users computation and if you don't distribute or make it do other users computation, you don't have to do anything.

Even those who infringe copyright law and distribute their modifications as proprietary software are not forced to distribute the source code - the licenses can be complied with by ceasing to distribute and modify the software forever.

@SuperDicq @newt @phnt @sun @kirby @bonifartius You really shouldn't bother with >people who have beliefs about things they've never read.

@SuperDicq @newt @phnt @sun @kirby @bonifartius The Linux foundation is an organization that is dedicated to infringing the GPLv2 in approved ways for Linux and BusyBox and u-boot etc (but they can't get away with infringing copyright on GNU software, so they don't allow that).

@newt @phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun Without GNU, there would likely be a worse company than gulag.

The solution to gulag is to license everything AGPLv3-or-later, as then google won't use your software.

@SuperDicq @newt @phnt @mangeurdenuage @sun @kirby @bonifartius More like a billion times.

@newt @phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @mangeurdenuage @sun I like GNU autotools - it tends to work unlike meson.

Full GNU/Jihad against "open source"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@mangeurdenuage @phnt @kirby @SuperDicq @bonifartius @sun @newt Bill Gates has done many things to children and adults that is worse than diddling them (but you're not allowed to point that out).