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is there anything that freedesktop designed that is actually, well, well-designed

until now i thought that at least the xdg basedirs were, but seems like not because of one snippet about XDG_STATE_HOME seems to show they didn't really think that one through
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@ska @SRAZKVT pkg-config was freedesktop project before ariadne made pkgconf as an implementation that isn't dogawful, iirc

so, maybe? i'm not sure how much of the spec of .pc was improved by ariadne and how much is originally fdo
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@ska @SRAZKVT @navi im trying to think of one and its not working because everything i like gets crippled by exclusively using .desktop files

damn it xdg autostart you got so close
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@navi No, everything about freedesktop is a halfassed derivative of whatever microsoft was doing 20 years ago
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@scathach @navi
https://arcan-fe.com/ i feel like this the only thing that isnt total dogpiss
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@zfigura i'm not sure who's jer but i really want to send an improved RFC for that mess
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@navi I think XBEL is okay, at least more worth to use it than to redesign something else and pretty sure most would make something worse or even more likely skip the premise of an interoperable format for bookmarks (screw that).

(Been using it for my bookmarks, allows me to share them between own browser, elinks, blog, …)
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@lanodan

i didn't know that was a thing til today

it's funny to look at it though because XBEL isn't an xdg thing, they just defined a filesystem layout to hold the XBEL files

also the spec mentions XDG_USER_DATA... which isn't mentioned anywhere else in the freedesktop wiki???

did they mean XDG_DATA_HOME? XDG_DATA_DIRS? holy
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@navi Ah yeah, XBEL seems to be sitting on multiple chairs. The filesystem layout is kind of another thing and not sure if it ever became cross-desktop as XDG implies.

At least in my desktop's home folder it's rather funny-looking:
-rw------- 1 haelwenn haelwenn  74K Apr 10 20:35 .local/share/recently-used.xbel
-rw-r--r-- 1 haelwenn haelwenn 1.5K Oct 9 2015 .local/share/user-places.xbel
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