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M2 SSD coolers are a scam right? I’ve never used one and never had issues.

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If they were actually required the manufacturer they would include them. Most SSDs have like 2 year warranties.

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@SuperDicq For PCIe4 and PCIe5 they are needed for sustained read/write speeds. The SSD can easily reach 60°C and above and will throttle itself when it gets too hot.

>If they were actually required the manufacturer they would include them.
Some sell both actually, but the general consensus is that they don't come with heatsinks, because motherboards come with heatsinks already.
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@phnt Oh yeah you’re right, most of those modern gamer motherboards come with SSD heatsinks included.

Everyone I own is old so we’re talking PCIe3 here. It probably won’t heat throttle at these speeds.

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@SuperDicq for sustained loads on fast gen5, maybe gen4 nvme drives it makes sense. But not much else
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@snacks I use pcie3, so it probably makes no sense then.

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@SuperDicq @phnt on laptops you either have special heatsink brackets, the SSD mounting to the motherboard with a thermal pad, or both.

Only like the early laptops that either called the slot "NGFF" or worse: were m.2 sata only lacked it.
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@PurpCat @phnt I thought modern laptops didn’t have removable storage anymore and just soldered it on there.

I dunno my newest laptop is from 2009.

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@SuperDicq @phnt Only Apple hardware, the shittiest Chromebooks/EMMC laptops, and a handful of Dell, Lenovos, etc.

Data recovery is vastly harder on one of those.
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@SuperDicq my CPU came without any cooling solution and yet it very likely needs one with its 300+ Watts of TDP
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@newt Most CPUs come with a stock cooler and if you buy one without I’m sure that the packaging and manual are very clear about the fact that you need one.

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Listens to Baroque while coding murder.exe newt

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@SuperDicq who even reads manuals?

Also, no. Most CPUs can come either with or without a cooler. And higher end and server CPUs never have a cooler.
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@SuperDicq @newt
I think consumer and enthusiast grade CPUs have retail and OEM packaging — Retail versions come with some sort of cooling system, OEM ones don't.
Server and workstation CPUs likely don't have a retail version.
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