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xmpp/prosody the only service to *require* 3 (sub)domains to function, per deployment

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why does a muc need to live in a separate subdomain

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no other chat service forces that

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@ska @toast

loads of modern ircd have those built in and more relevantly all happen in band, flip a config knob

doesn't need me to add custom DNS entries just to make it happy
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@navi does it actually require a real subdomain bcs i thought it was just a pseudo-domain like that is just an internal designation

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@nu you need a tls cert for it

so yes, it needs to otherwise how will you get a tls cert
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@navi @toast @ska xmpp is corposlop and i hate it. why do you think we don’t even have a SINGLE good client after more than 20 years, and the only two viable server implementations are both less reliable and riskier to upgrade than every single ircd?

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@navi @toast @ska Plus you could always just skip services if it's a smol IRC server/network where effectively most-of/all the ones that would be +o would also be opers.

That said I feel like there's much less reasons to self-host IRC than XMPP, mostly due to much less data being stored in the servers and IRC clients being aggregator-like.
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@lanodan @toast @ska

having chat history is the main reason

don't know a single big network that does
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@navi @toast @ska geeknode.org is the biggest I know which does and it's a pretty small network (but it's at least a network), it's part of why I put my channel there when Freenode fell off.
(Other reason being that I know the staff, but that's also true for some of Libera)
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@mia @navi @toast @ska
what ircv3d would be easy & cheap to run for a small (<50 ppl) unofficial work chat
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