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Brave Origin is paid on Windows and Mac, but it's free on Linux Sheew
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@gettie yes. i have tech friends who use that and don't understand why
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@kaia @gettie It's the only usable Chromium browser in a world where Firefox is unusable.
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@kaia everything's free if youcre a pirate
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@phnt @gettie
because of Google cucking the adblock on regular Chromium?
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@kaia @gettie Partially that, but uBlock Lite is still mostly usable. It's more about things you would expect in a basic browser that Chrome/Chromium just doesn't have. Stuff like blocking autoplaying media which drives me up a wall every time. Disabling smooth scrolling is a chrome://flags option,...
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@kaia @gettie I use it and prefer it, the adblock works better
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@sun @gettie
how do you deal with all the slopped on top features?
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@kaia @gettie I bought Origin, it lets you disable all of them.

In regular Brave I disabled them all manually except Leo, but Origin you can completely remove them
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@kaia @gettie @sun i use it too, it's just a normal browser. built in adblock is nice, rest i ignore because it's barely there. i wonder if that origin thing makse any money. seem to me like the gorup of people who's likely to care about this stuff is not paying for software, and the people who are paying for software don't care about this.
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@lain @gettie @kaia @sun I see it is a donation option, not a product. Still I don't know why you would want to donate to an ad company masquerading as a browser, but to each their own.
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@phnt @gettie @kaia @sun kagi have their orion browser which has a more explicit 'this is a paid product' approach, i used it for a while but i prefer brave. not happy that i wanted to switch from firefox but it has been declining so much (both in product and in management) that i don't really see a reason to keep using it.
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@lain @gettie @phnt @kaia I would prefer Firefox if it didn't suck now yeah
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@sun @gettie @phnt @kaia these days i have a different view of free software (essentially, i just don't think copyright is valid at all), so i'm not worried about proprietary stuff or good intentions that much. i know i ran the phone stack that kaia is running for a while but the main people behind it are completely lunatics, so yeah i'd rather trust in apple to keep my stuff safe than people who melt down on matrix.


(kind of off topic, please understand)
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@lain @gettie @phnt @kaia well for me it is that but also it was just a more flexible browser which I liked.

I don't really think you have a right to the source code of software (people can enter into any type of non-exploitative agreement they want) I just think it's a good idea to demand the source.
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@kaia It is nonfree proprietary malware on Windows, MacOS and GNU/Linux - suckers of course even go so far to pay for copies, on the former 2 OS's.
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@kaia Since proprietary.

Proprietary programs that aren't malware are unicorns.
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