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an academic didn't write that last one at all, marketing did
@icedquinn @p First one is missing 0, because you don't need to do moderation.
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icedquinn@blob.cat
@phnt @p its really funny that they call federated blacklisting "reputation data" and also mention EU law, because EU countries like france actually ban the practice of blacklisting. whether that's been transferred from the professional contexts to social media i'm not sure has been tested, but the french have told me it's explicitly not allowed for companies to do that.
even just storing lists of complaints about doctors is iffy.
even just storing lists of complaints about doctors is iffy.
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Denpa mode 
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@icedquinn @p Blocklists could be seen as discrimination in some sense, so it hold some water, but these organizations and federated blocklists efforts are also funded by the German government, so not like it would get prosecuted according to law. On a similar note, if some Mastodon instance grows large enough according to EU'S DSA, they will have to implement report resolution notifications for users, which the DSA mandates for platforms of certain sizes. And I can imagine that the people advocating for this wouldn't like the reported user to know they've been reported and what for, basically leaking reports to reported users.
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@romin @phnt @p the world is very different now than it was 7 years ago. It was important to invest in an ecosystem that could be a real viable competitor to Instagram/Twitter as their censorship was getting out of hand. But then a competing centralized platform at $work exploded in growth and it was a better fit anyway as it provided some privacy/discoverability controls that weren't really possible on the fediverse. This is a post about OnlyFans.
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@romin @feld @p
>besides this iftas stuff smell like 'by committee'
It's just a non-profit grant money extraction scheme funded by the likes of Social Web Foundation, itself funded by Meta, XRP and more, operated by people that think Bsky is part of "Fediverse". It's just a new way of trying to centralize the Fediverse by using moderation, nothing less, nothing more.
>besides this iftas stuff smell like 'by committee'
It's just a non-profit grant money extraction scheme funded by the likes of Social Web Foundation, itself funded by Meta, XRP and more, operated by people that think Bsky is part of "Fediverse". It's just a new way of trying to centralize the Fediverse by using moderation, nothing less, nothing more.
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icedquinn@blob.cat
why does ripple need moderation its a coin
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Pawlicker 🐾😹
PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
@icedquinn @phnt @p @romin matrix just isn't AP, bluesky is a place to complain about how much you hate your life
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@p I should start a business for that.
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pistolero
p@fsebugoutzone.org
@phnt "Pfff, you're just being paranoid about IFTAS trying to centralize control of fedi."
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@ins0mniak @phnt @romin I couldn't find it and I have like a million notifications or something so I will find it later and it was really funny, trust me.
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@feld @romin @phnt
> Next up, IFTAS itself, $384,375 in 2023, and then another $7,733 in 2024, but they spent $302,567 that year, per https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/932011167/202433169349303828/full .
https://fsebugoutzone.org/objects/55b92e72-d82f-4e9c-a730-34d09d071a99
Their funding is downstream of the NED. I do not think they forgot Pleroma exists; I think they do not like Pleroma.
> Next up, IFTAS itself, $384,375 in 2023, and then another $7,733 in 2024, but they spent $302,567 that year, per https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/932011167/202433169349303828/full .
https://fsebugoutzone.org/objects/55b92e72-d82f-4e9c-a730-34d09d071a99
Their funding is downstream of the NED. I do not think they forgot Pleroma exists; I think they do not like Pleroma.
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@romin @feld @phnt
> besides this iftas stuff smell like 'by committee'
It's worse; drop https://fsebugoutzone.org/objects/ad4d151b-a6a1-4694-94dd-f4e60461e7f7 into SPW's search box.
> besides this iftas stuff smell like 'by committee'
It's worse; drop https://fsebugoutzone.org/objects/ad4d151b-a6a1-4694-94dd-f4e60461e7f7 into SPW's search box.
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@PurpCat @icedquinn @phnt @romin
> bluesky is a place to complain about how much you hate your life
That's about who's on it; the main issue is that Busky is architecturally centralized.
I am not certain how hard it is to modify what code exists to just liberate it from their DNS hierarchy and do a parallel network, but I have a suspicion that it's not actually a very good protocol or someone would be doing this by now.
> bluesky is a place to complain about how much you hate your life
That's about who's on it; the main issue is that Busky is architecturally centralized.
I am not certain how hard it is to modify what code exists to just liberate it from their DNS hierarchy and do a parallel network, but I have a suspicion that it's not actually a very good protocol or someone would be doing this by now.
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), Ford Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation, etc. It is pretend anti-government.
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icedquinn@blob.cat
@p @PurpCat @phnt @romin there's no money in it. the people who care about that are on fedi, the people who don't want to externalize as much cost as they can anyway.
companies are already used to accepting and coping with heavy upstream risk so they don't really care as long as it functions as a place where PR lands.
companies are already used to accepting and coping with heavy upstream risk so they don't really care as long as it functions as a place where PR lands.
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@p @icedquinn @PurpCat @romin The EU sponsored W social media is built on ATProto. It's possible to make it sort of decentralized, but the architecture is done in a way that makes it very hard and expensive. Also btw blocking bsky's content labeler basically disables moderation for you and earns you a quick account ban.
On a completely different note, W requires you to prove your identity via their W ID or whatever app that is supposed to be 100% anonymous, to even make an account. It's glowing more than feds on Xitter and 4chan.
On a completely different note, W requires you to prove your identity via their W ID or whatever app that is supposed to be 100% anonymous, to even make an account. It's glowing more than feds on Xitter and 4chan.
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@HatkeshiatorTND @p Do you realize that's exactly what they want you to do, so they can then show statistics about how racist people opposing their moderation centralization are? By doing that you are giving them more ammunition.
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icedquinn@blob.cat
@phnt @PurpCat @p @romin authoritarians have been drooling over turning everything in to surveillance states. the whole "must have a government ID we control but we super duper promise through this intractible series of maths that this somehow isn't a tracking system"
like if its not for tracking why does it need the state ID at all
like if its not for tracking why does it need the state ID at all
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@phnt @PurpCat @p @romin as for atproto itself. the few times i looked over the spec there is nothing special about it. claude seems to think it CAN federate now, but there's still basically zero independent implementations. same problem as matrix where its federated on paper but every install is basically new vector's.
nostr actually went and did the thing, has servers, has clients, negentropy sync works and is pretty efficient. some nostr's use the separate in/outbox for logistical reasons but it didn't even require a protocol rewrite to do it, it's just a convention about how to send messages to people.
xmpp already did the thing but people really are severely allergic to XML these days.
there's really nothing interesting at all about atproto.
nostr actually went and did the thing, has servers, has clients, negentropy sync works and is pretty efficient. some nostr's use the separate in/outbox for logistical reasons but it didn't even require a protocol rewrite to do it, it's just a convention about how to send messages to people.
xmpp already did the thing but people really are severely allergic to XML these days.
there's really nothing interesting at all about atproto.
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@icedquinn @PurpCat @p @romin It's supposed to "guarantee that everybody you talk to on W is a verified human and not a bot".
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@icedquinn @PurpCat @p @romin Expecting EU to be innovative and creative with their authoritarian excuses is too much to ask. Give it a few years and 1984 will be banned again, because it will read like reality.
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lolitechengineer@loli.church
lolitechengineer@loli.church
@p@fsebugoutzone.org @romin@shitposter.world @feld@friedcheese.us @phnt@fluffytail.org government gayops
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pistolero
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@HatkeshiatorTND @phnt I longposted in that box.
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p@fsebugoutzone.org
@icedquinn @PurpCat @phnt @romin It's important that there are also PR analytics and observability for KPIs.
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@phnt @PurpCat @icedquinn @romin
> Also btw blocking bsky's content labeler basically disables moderation for you and earns you a quick account ban.
Dear god.
> On a completely different note, W requires you to prove your identity via their W ID or whatever app that is supposed to be 100% anonymous, to even make an account. It's glowing more than feds on Xitter and 4chan.
If the EU is involved, several banks had to approve it before it happened.
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> Also btw blocking bsky's content labeler basically disables moderation for you and earns you a quick account ban.
Dear god.
> On a completely different note, W requires you to prove your identity via their W ID or whatever app that is supposed to be 100% anonymous, to even make an account. It's glowing more than feds on Xitter and 4chan.
If the EU is involved, several banks had to approve it before it happened.
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Sweetie_Squad_Liquidator@poa.st
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@icedquinn @PurpCat @phnt @romin
> xmpp already did the thing but people really are severely allergic to XML these days.
XML sucks but the "presence" thing is the thing fucks XMPP hardest.
> xmpp already did the thing but people really are severely allergic to XML these days.
XML sucks but the "presence" thing is the thing fucks XMPP hardest.
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p@fsebugoutzone.org
@phnt @icedquinn @PurpCat @romin
> everybody you talk to on W is a verified human and not a bot
"Except state-sanctioned bots."
> everybody you talk to on W is a verified human and not a bot
"Except state-sanctioned bots."
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p@fsebugoutzone.org
@icedquinn @phnt @PurpCat @romin
> there's an old internet meme with voice clones of metal gear solid 2 about using AI as an excuse to push the digital turbofascism
That was this long-ass monologue near the end of MGS2, like, why would someone need to edit it in order to do that?
> there's an old internet meme with voice clones of metal gear solid 2 about using AI as an excuse to push the digital turbofascism
That was this long-ass monologue near the end of MGS2, like, why would someone need to edit it in order to do that?
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lolitechengineer@loli.church
lolitechengineer@loli.church
@p@fsebugoutzone.org @PurpCat@clubcyberia.co @icedquinn@blob.cat @phnt@fluffytail.org @romin@shitposter.world if you did that though you'd be severing yourself from the bluesky network.
What's the point in using ATprotocol if not for that? There are dozens of better alternatives like OStatus, pump, and of course ActivityPub.
What's the point in using ATprotocol if not for that? There are dozens of better alternatives like OStatus, pump, and of course ActivityPub.
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@lolitechengineer @PurpCat @icedquinn @phnt @romin
> What's the point in using ATprotocol if not for that?
That was kind of my point, like, if it was any good, people would not care about Busky blocking their deal.
> What's the point in using ATprotocol if not for that?
That was kind of my point, like, if it was any good, people would not care about Busky blocking their deal.
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@kumicota @phnt They didn't ask for any mandatory identifying information. Last year I shat on their "Can we email you?" bit like "Fuck this why can you not talk over fedi" and this year the form allowed you to just say your fedi ID.
Their "Is my instance blocked?" service requires you to give them an admin token, though.
Their "Is my instance blocked?" service requires you to give them an admin token, though.
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@p @phnt @ins0mniak @dj @Sweetie_Squad_Liquidator @romin
What kind of Asiatic horror is that?
Deport it, please
What kind of Asiatic horror is that?
Deport it, please
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@ins0mniak @phnt @p @dj @Sweetie_Squad_Liquidator @romin
It's the democratized internet, everyone is a whore, and most are slaves of Christ.
It's the democratized internet, everyone is a whore, and most are slaves of Christ.
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@ins0mniak @phnt @p @dj @Sweetie_Squad_Liquidator @romin
Have we discussed the first Emperor album yet? "Dark...and kinda goth" describes its essence expertly.
Have we discussed the first Emperor album yet? "Dark...and kinda goth" describes its essence expertly.
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@dj @phnt @ins0mniak @p @Sweetie_Squad_Liquidator @romin
We all have different destinies, and while tastes/desires are neither "objective" (spit) nor "subjective" (lol), they match our needs.
But she looks like a boy with distant Negrotic heritage and mostly low, heavy Denisovan Asian to me plu sa hormonal imbalance.
Then again I can't think of any media figures I find sexually appealing except Mitch McConnell.
We all have different destinies, and while tastes/desires are neither "objective" (spit) nor "subjective" (lol), they match our needs.
But she looks like a boy with distant Negrotic heritage and mostly low, heavy Denisovan Asian to me plu sa hormonal imbalance.
Then again I can't think of any media figures I find sexually appealing except Mitch McConnell.
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@ins0mniak @phnt @p @dj @Sweetie_Squad_Liquidator @romin
I am thinking of Mercyful Fate right now, maybe followed by Killing Joke and Kraftwerk.
Not really goth, but darkish.
I am thinking of Mercyful Fate right now, maybe followed by Killing Joke and Kraftwerk.
Not really goth, but darkish.
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@p @phnt @ins0mniak @romin
"Tell me about your filesystem" is instant win, but the answer is always ReiserFS.
"Tell me about your filesystem" is instant win, but the answer is always ReiserFS.
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@ins0mniak @phnt @p @dj @Sweetie_Squad_Liquidator @romin
Very true. I got their CD in the 1980s and have appreciated their... ownership of their own personalities and direction... since.
Most pop is WHORE, Killing Joke is living on a trailer past the edge of town doing its own thing.
Very true. I got their CD in the 1980s and have appreciated their... ownership of their own personalities and direction... since.
Most pop is WHORE, Killing Joke is living on a trailer past the edge of town doing its own thing.
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@ins0mniak @phnt @p @dj @Sweetie_Squad_Liquidator @romin
We should also appreciate thrash.
DRI, Cryptic Slaughter, Suicidal Tendencies, Dead Horse.
Everything else can fuck the ass of Christ in obscurity.
We should also appreciate thrash.
DRI, Cryptic Slaughter, Suicidal Tendencies, Dead Horse.
Everything else can fuck the ass of Christ in obscurity.
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@ins0mniak @phnt @p @dj @Sweetie_Squad_Liquidator @romin
Yes, but Cryptic Slaughter and DRI are always going to rule the roost.
COC was a distant third.
Fearless Iranians From Hell were pretty cool though.
I love thrash and it lives on in grindcore like Nausea, Terrorizer, Napalm Death, Blood, Repulsion and Vaginal Jesus!
Yes, but Cryptic Slaughter and DRI are always going to rule the roost.
COC was a distant third.
Fearless Iranians From Hell were pretty cool though.
I love thrash and it lives on in grindcore like Nausea, Terrorizer, Napalm Death, Blood, Repulsion and Vaginal Jesus!
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@kumicota @p It's very popular in the Mastodon™ crowd. I don't know who in their right mind would give admin access to a third party just to automatically manage a blocklist. Who knows what else they query with those permissions. Just the fact that you need to provide that access to even see the full blocklist shows that they don't care about transparency.
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@amerika @Sweetie_Squad_Liquidator @dj @ins0mniak @phnt @romin After I posted it, I was like "Why she got a face like that?" I must not have looked at her face.
> Deport it, please
She's in Japan already, I think.
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> Deport it, please
She's in Japan already, I think.
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@dj @amerika @Sweetie_Squad_Liquidator @ins0mniak @phnt @romin Greetings, fellow dude that didn't look at her face.
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@amerika @dj @Sweetie_Squad_Liquidator @ins0mniak @phnt @romin
> Mitch McConnell
I couldn't find the thing I was looking for and I'm nearly down to zero so I'm rushing this.
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> Mitch McConnell
I couldn't find the thing I was looking for and I'm nearly down to zero so I'm rushing this.
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@p @phnt @ins0mniak @dj @Sweetie_Squad_Liquidator @romin
I used to have a pair of shoes like that, they were great.
She's weird looking, sorry.
But so is Taylor Swift, who's only half-White.
I used to have a pair of shoes like that, they were great.
She's weird looking, sorry.
But so is Taylor Swift, who's only half-White.
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@p @icedquinn @PurpCat @phnt @romin
Demand is low
Most people go there for Left-safe social media
Consequently it is boring as shit
Demand is low
Most people go there for Left-safe social media
Consequently it is boring as shit
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@p @icedquinn @PurpCat @phnt @romin
What is this Communist shit, I post in whatever encoding I want.
What is this Communist shit, I post in whatever encoding I want.
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p@fsebugoutzone.org
@phnt @kumicota Looks like they went to requiring Masto and they narrowed the scope to admin:read:domain_blocks but still no sauce: https://cariad.fedicheck.iftas.org/login
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@p @phnt @ins0mniak @dj @Sweetie_Squad_Liquidator @romin
Nope, later genre, just late hardcore/emo.
One of the better efforts.
Someone post some Rites of Spring.
Nope, later genre, just late hardcore/emo.
One of the better efforts.
Someone post some Rites of Spring.
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Pawlicker 🐾😹
PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
@amerika @icedquinn @phnt @p @romin age id shit is making the users mad lately because while it's hitting other sites too bluesky larped as the good guys
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@amerika @Sweetie_Squad_Liquidator @dj @ins0mniak @phnt @romin
> late hardcore/emo.
> emo
> emo
> emo
> emo
Well, now we have to fight. This is skateboard music, not wrist-cutting music.
> Rites of Spring
Igor Stravinsky.
> late hardcore/emo.
> emo
> emo
> emo
> emo
Well, now we have to fight. This is skateboard music, not wrist-cutting music.
> Rites of Spring
Igor Stravinsky.
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p@fsebugoutzone.org
@snacks @Sweetie_Squad_Liquidator @amerika @dj @ins0mniak @phnt @romin I don't know what that program is.
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@kumicota @Sweetie_Squad_Liquidator @amerika @dj @ins0mniak @phnt @romin @snacks EAT THE FUCKING BURGER
THIS IS AMERICA
THERE WILL BE NO SURVIVORS
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THIS IS AMERICA
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@adequate @kumicota @amerika @phnt @ins0mniak @snacks @dj @Sweetie_Squad_Liquidator @romin THERE WILL BE NO SURVIVORS
THIS IS AMERICA
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THIS IS AMERICA
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@Sweetie_Squad_Liquidator @adequate @amerika @dj @ins0mniak @kumicota @phnt @romin @snacks NOW EAT
THE FUCKING
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THE FUCKING
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@adequate @kumicota @amerika @phnt @ins0mniak @p @snacks @dj @Sweetie_Squad_Liquidator @romin I also wear this shirt a lot.
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