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Fuck, I wish I could drink. Or had weed.
I need to do something to cool off. Xenogears isn't gonna cut it, it's too passive.
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@druid mod the shit out of skyrim, but then idk if that gets people in the zone without a dose of autism
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@snacks I do want to get around to that, but I should actually beat the vanilla game first....
The only time I gave in to temptation was playing The Wheels of Lull. Have you tried that one?
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@druid that's the time travel murder mystery one right? I think i started it but never finished
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@druid also, did you really never finish the vanilla main story?
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@druid ig that's something you could do then. The main gameplay loop of skyrim is an addictive time eater itself
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@snacks It's the lore-heavy one about the beings who keep time turning normally, I don't remember a murder mystery. You might be thinking of The Forgotten City, another excellent mod that got remade as an (even better) standalone game, overhauled completely to be set in the real world and have a (nicely accurate) Roman setting.
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@druid yeah, might be the forgotten city, that rings a bell
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@snacks Yep. Closest I've ever gotten is my current file, going to get the Elder Scroll for Paarthunax. I've done so much other content in the game over the years that I'm burned out on a lot of it. I also did a lot of Dawnguard (enough to get past Soul Cairn), but I haven't touched Dragonborn at all. I hear it's the best one.
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@druid ig i only saw a showcase of the wheels of lull
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@snacks That's very true. Thanks bro. I might literally go and play Skyrim lol. Todd would be proud of me.
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@druid i don't really like dragonborn tbh, much prefer dawnguard. Only good part about dragonborn is exploring solstheim for me.
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@druid i've mostly enjoyed follower focused story mods but i should give it a try
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@druid oh, you never even got dragonrend? Just rushing to that to make dragon encounters bearable is pretty common, but the giant underground area for getting the scroll can be a drag, dawnguards forgotten vale is kinda similar
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@snacks I had Sofia or whatever her name is once but I got fed up of her attitude and gold digging. I wish you could marry that ghost waifu who's with you for a few dungeons....

Oh yeah, I also installed this for a laugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFv2cj5_q_c
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@druid i am tmepered in over a hundred hours of survival now tho, so the underground area bothers me way less than it used to
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@snacks >Giant underground area
So that's what I have next....
And yeah, I decided to rush Dragonrend this time for that exact reason, lol. I tried once before but got sidetracked recruiting people for the Blades.
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@druid m'rissi is really cute, has an interesting story and your choices matter. Not to mention that you can just fail and lose her in some spots
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@snacks Man I hate survival modes in these games, I dunno how you do it lol
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@druid once you get into alchemy you want to walk everywhere. Every time i start i get really annoyed at how fast your hunger and toredness cause issues but for some reason it doesn't take long to juggle them well.
You gotta find something for travel tho, being a werewolf becomes very tempting since they also don't freeze while transformed
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@druid mod followers generally are much better, the only vanilla follower that can keep up is serana because the good mod followers are based on all her special behaviour
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@snacks Man I already get pissed off dealing with alchemy LOL. I never do alchemy, enchant or smith, I just sell expensive items to buy potions and rely on loot. The true 80IQ Nord gameplay
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@snacks AND YET YOU CAN'T FUCK HER
WHAT'S THE POINT OF A GOTH GF YOU CAN'T RIZZ
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@druid smithing is impossibly hard to grind past a certain level, idk how anyone does it. Enchanting and alchemy just require you to hoard random cheap shit and then set apart an hours to spam click in the case of enchanting or to just keep making bs poisons/potions on the side whenever you get home
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@snacks I should just marry Lydia, that's the true "walks directly towards the quest marker" Nord thing to do. Besides, if I don't marry her she'll just sit in the cuck chair forever.
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@snacks Yeah, I just don't find that fun! Besides, they're a huge perk-sink.
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@druid i don't think that's even beyond the oldrim limit, dangerously close tho
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@snacks I think the most I've had is like 20? And that was in vanilla Oblivion, which really NEEDED modding.
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@druid it doesn't take long until a poison does multiple times the damage of the attack itself and i tend to play in a way where i have to kill as fast as possible
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@snacks Do you play on a high difficulty?
I tend to just go heavy armour, mace and shield, lol. Maximum dumb brute
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@druid they just keep piling up tbh, you grab ordinator, 3dnpc, some follower and a bunch of graphics, that armor on nexus also looked really cool, oh hey, i really like this combat overhaul!
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@druid expert rn but my difficulty settings are tweaked and i play without armor or much health investment unless i plan on going into a lot of melee
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@druid vanilla difficulty settings are annoying beyond adept because nothing ever dies unless you're an assassin
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@druid i did have a playthrough where i subverted that by going all in on summoning and illusion because those aren't affected by the difficulty settings at all
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@snacks That sounds kinda fun! I did do a few magic builds in the past, but it ended up feeling strange with the tone of the game and the main quest. Morrowind had no such problems, felt just as natural to do it as an Altmer mage as it did as a Redguard barbarian.
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@druid destruction feels weird while the other ones can just augment other playstyles. It scales weirdly where it starts really weak, gets really strong and then falls off again because it doesn't synergize with other skills or even gear really. The spells are also kinda uninspired being basically the same between all elements except on the last level
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@druid i also never finished any other elder scrolls game tbh
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@snacks Holy shit, really? You should definitely at least beat Morrowind. It's a masterpiece. Blows all the other Elder Scrolls games out of the water tbh.
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@twinspin6 @snacks I like the graphics! The random chance hit system on the other hand...
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@druid @snacks uncs like the graphics and i find it a pain to immerse on the other side
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@druid @snacks makes it easier to get along with decent games with bad graphics i suppose
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@twinspin6 @snacks I played The Elder Scrolls in order, by the time I got to Morrowind it was a relief lmao
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@druid @twinspin6 its just a dsiconnect between intend and presentation so it feels kinda bad unless you just stand there and think about it like youre playing attrp
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@snacks @twinspin6 Yeah, basically. It's worth getting past it and playing the game for what it is, though.
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