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totally wired cell
cell@outerheaven.club
@grillchen simplified case where there’s only one weight at one end for either case will have 100 newtons
and in case of no scale, net force is zero but tension on stressed rope is 200 newtons
assuming all tension is on the scale, it will read 200 newtons
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and in case of no scale, net force is zero but tension on stressed rope is 200 newtons
assuming all tension is on the scale, it will read 200 newtons
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@grillchen
Trick question.
The scale, being an object, does not read at all.
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totally wired cell
cell@outerheaven.club
@grillchen god please let my explaining of concepts and thought process pass me a job interview one day 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
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A Light Shining In Darkness
fzer0@nerdculture.deInteresting, 200 comes to mind first but when i think about it i'd say 100.
the 100 on the right are no different to a fixed mount i guess.
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grillchen
grillchen@brot.eus
@cell hope so, but correct answer is 100N
imagine on the right for example being a wall not a weight.
the weight one the left is 100N. for the scale not falling of the table the force on the right has to be equal. so 100N to the wall
imagine on the right for example being a wall not a weight.
the weight one the left is 100N. for the scale not falling of the table the force on the right has to be equal. so 100N to the wall
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totally wired cell
cell@outerheaven.club
@grillchen aah, so the case of “hook is attached to a wall and other end of the scale has a 100N weight on it can’t be generalized to this case 😇
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grillchen
grillchen@brot.eus
@cell (it is very counterintuitive. got it wrong aswell when i first thought about it)
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totally wired cell
cell@outerheaven.club
@grillchen actually got me thinking, which would a hypothetical interviewer prefer: person who got it right but can’t explain it
person who got it wrong but explained their thought process clearly
person who got it wrong but explained their thought process clearly
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grillchen
grillchen@brot.eus
@cell i think the latter. bc if u get it wrong but explain your thought process i can correct u and understand u.
if u get it right but i have no idea how and why i cant communicate with u.
if u get it right but i have no idea how and why i cant communicate with u.
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totally wired cell
cell@outerheaven.club
@grillchen well trying to explain things and my thought process clearly is what i’m trying to learn ^^
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Snacks
snacks
@cell @grillchen your simplified case is no different from the case presented. Fixed mount has to exert the same force as the weight on the other side to maintain the position
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grillchen
grillchen@brot.eus
@cell teaching people is very effective. also helps me understanding stuff alot. dont teach anyone right now though
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totally wired cell
cell@outerheaven.club
@snacks @grillchen aah si si, that explains it!! hehe thank you
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Johann150 (🔜 eth0) ⁂ 
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Johann150@genau.qwertqwefsday.eu
weights labeled with newtons
grillchen banned from BIPM
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@Johann150 i just made it universal. stupid earthians think only their planet exists
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Johann150 (🔜 eth0) ⁂ ☮
Johann150@genau.qwertqwefsday.eu
@grillchen @cell hmm so this is a case of newtons 3rd law right?
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Johann150 (🔜 eth0) ⁂ ☮
Johann150@genau.qwertqwefsday.eu
@grillchen tbh that made me suspicious if there even is gravity in the scenario. Maybe the right answer is zero after all
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@Johann150 @grillchen thats was my thought, its zero because there is no gravity, its fake
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papush! [all caps or no caps]
papush_@outerheaven.club
@grillchen scales cant read their aare scale
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@grillchen a bit less than 200 due to sticktion 🤓
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