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frank you dumbass it's all the fucking same. it's a marketing strategy to increase gasoline margins through feel-good "oh i take care of my car so well" wank bullshit.

if you have a fuel injected car pull the intake manifold off and clean the valve stems every couple of years or something.
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@7666 i thought they had a higher amount of detergents though
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@shibao there are EPA minimum standards for all fuels. companies can voluntarily toss more additives in but who the fuck knows what they actually end up doing. it costs them essentially nothing yet commands some sort of "premium" feel-good self masturbatory feeling on the average consumer who probably also tosses 93 in their car because "well it must be better for it!"
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@7666 what do u think about this https://www.ace.aaa.com/automotive/advocacy/top-tier-gasoline.html
i mean i like fuel system cleaner even if it's not the same as an intake job or whatever
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@shibao i am not trusting a single fucking study from anyone in bed with the auto industry. there is money to be made and these whores will say anything to get it.
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@7666 it's just fuel system cleaner and fuel system cleaner works
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@7666 carbon deposits take a long time to build up, i don't know how this guy thinks he can run an engine for like 30 minutes to get an accurate example
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@shibao well see the funnier part is that engine is carbureted and the only time this will actually supposedly do anything is in fuel injected vehicles without parallel port injection to wash the valves. i was more interested in the bolt tests and stuff.

the conclusion is maybe just dump a $10 bottle of injector cleaner in once in a while instead of paying yet another gas tax.
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@7666 yeah that's what i do personally. i'm fancy on my motorcycle, i only do non-ethanol gas in there mostly cuz if there's a period where I don't run it for a while, i don't want the ethanol to separate out, but also it will not eat up my fuel lines as much in theory. but most people don't need to worry about it because cars are some of the best engineered items we make
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@7666 @shibao a lot of these things are sold at a huge markup as "fuel cleaners" but i mean the chemistry there is pretty simple, it's probably toluene or some other shit like that.
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@7666 also all injected because fuck having to clean a carb. i can't imagine
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@7666 maybe one day i will own a house

a lot of people have been raving about electric mowers, i wonder if they're good
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@shibao it takes me 3 hours and about a full tank of gas to mow the lawn on a 54" riding mower (top boomer) there ain't no way an electric one is gonna make it
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@7666 i always wanted to drive a riding lawnmower, it seems so fun...
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