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honestly impressive
snailcat

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@harblinger how did you get the icons to work on chanfe
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which icons? favicon.ico - static file served up, ez swap, custom emotes - idk they're cached in localstorage and have to be refreshed if you add a new one, glyphs everywhere else is fontawesome free icons, avatars/banner bg for imageless posts just loaded from metadata

hope I hit on something

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@harblinger sounds like they're doing cleanroom reverse-engineering? also that screenshot is horrid, too wide for my screen even at full width. I don't know how people read text so wide it makes my fucking head spin.
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ah, you beat me to it, yeah it's pretty amazing though lol
it transcended to comedy

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@harblinger I never thought I would say the phrase "too autistic for software development" but somehow...
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@RustyCrab @harblinger can people just not treat ai as some horrific rapist evil and just use it for its intended usecases related to documents and programs and shit? i mean ai art is fucking ass, no doubt here, but coding is like one of the things it was probably made first and foremost for
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Coding wasn't what it was made for. Coding really came as an after though. The original ChatGPT was pretty bad at it. It's honestly still pretty bad at it, but what changed is the use of harnesses (OpenCode, Claudecode, pi, etc.) that gave the LLMs access to all the local tooling to check its work. You don't notice how bad it is because it now just iterates until it gets it right. But now you're also letting it run lots of arbitrary commands on your machine (unless you put your harness and workspace in a container, which most people don't bother with).

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@djsumdog @RustyCrab @harblinger maybe, then what is its initial purpose anyway then? i doubt it was made to be a sassy sarcastic electronic shitlib chatbot
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I respect the resistance tbh, I avoided chatgpt when it first became popular, pre-vibe code. I think it was ~Sonnet 3.6 that I was seeing examples that made selling my soul worth the trade

it just gets to the point where:

- sus is this code from an LLM?
- It might be... so I better not use this code, and now that I've seen this simple patch I've been tainted by reading text from an LLM
- I'm going to bring in my pvre human friend to fix the bug

wew lad sane

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@harblinger having principles is fine but when it outright hamstrings your project it might be a problem
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@djsumdog @lina @harblinger if it's just blindly iterating until it gets it right, how do you explain it being able to use bespoke tools that I wrote? There's obviously no built-in harness validation for that and it's not spamming commands. It'll usually make a mistake once per session, notice it, and then not make it again
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@lina @djsumdog @harblinger because if an algorithm can be used to predict the next correct word, you can obviously extend that to predict the next correct action which is interesting
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@harblinger @lina for a 5 line patch too. and how tf could they tell it was ai? its not like their friend's patch would have been any different from a hypothetical llms patch. human hallucination?

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@pernia @harblinger it had 500 lines of uwu femboy roleplay as comments that the submitter intentionally left in before he asked his uwu femboy chatbot bf to generate a 5 line patch idk
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that was a good part: "AI could be here" ts
claude derangement syndrome

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@djsumdog @RustyCrab @lina @harblinger ai is as good as someone that has never done a task before but knows a little bit of everything and also thinks at the speed of light. the limit is when that person doesn't have the knowledge needed and can't throw shit at a wall anymore.

and "ai sandboxing" is a meme. just give it its own user without doas access and make sure ur boxes aren't accessible from outside ur own little private network. at that point unless ur actively being attacked or someone's prompt-injecting their own little blog/git repo nothings gonna happen

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@harblinger mfw i'm raped by ai so i need to have my friend who wasn't raped by ai look at my code and fix it

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@harblinger everyone involved is retarded

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@harblinger the Nadia Comăneci of mental gymnastics
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