@sally @taylan @dagda @snacks @waltercool high yield thermonuclear false nvke
@taylan @sally @dagda @snacks @waltercool both of us separate can crush 10 of you combined, taylan
@taylan @sally @dagda @snacks @waltercool youd shit your pants if jimmy came at you based on the latest information on his fitness
I think it's easier to frame rules that seem like enforcements of morality as rules of mutual agreement of safety. For example, saying 'I'm against murder because I am." which is still a spooked argument, because you're implying there's some importance to life, which there isn't really.
Instead, it's probably better to argue that it's good to have a society wide peace treaty where we don't kill each other. It's expedient for most people, both weak and strong, especially in a world where weapons exist that practically negate inherent strength, that society as a whole treats murder as 'wrong', because it basically proves you're an untrustworthy psychopath. Prison, therefore, is a place where you go when you violate any of the safety rules set out in a society.
In this paradigm, it's actually pretty easy to argue for most rules whilst circumventing arguments of morality. I think it's silly to say, "There's no objective rules to the universe, but coincidently I'm going to support basically 99.99% of our current morality system by implying that's what I deeply desire." because that's pretty obviously spooked. Obviously, this paradigm also basically does that because, so I guess it's still quite spooked too. That being said, I do generally agree with most rules set out by modern society.
I'm sure I could word this better, but I can't be bothered.
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This is unironically why we need the star trek replicator before true communism can be ushered in
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I'm all in favour of some government intervention in the economy but I'm extremely sceptical of holistic government economic planning, like the USSR. Perhaps it could work with some sort of overarching world federation like a global EU with far higher intervention in each countries resource management.
I think generally the free market is far superior at distributing goods, even if it can end up with both waste and unreasonable profit margins on certain goods. That being said, I think our productive capabilities for most goods has only gotten better and better. With certain things like food, we are almost effectively at post scarcity. It's just we lack the means to distribute it, especially excess, to those who need it.
The thing with the star trek replicator is that not only would it remove scarcity, it also bypasses the need for a distribution system. For as long as we can't create goods individually in our own homes, we'll be stuck deciding between a way to both create those resources and also a way to distribute them.