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I find tanya the evil to be

29% Pro-War
35% Anti-War
11% 3rd more nuanced option
23% Not worth knowing about
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@desea
isn't she an embodiment of self-interest? she could be pro-anything, as long as it benefits her
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@desea I feel like jawab the good would be more qualified to answer 02lurk

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@desea anti war but military is the best carreer opportunity during a world war for her
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@snowy meant more the show rather than the main character

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@snacks i do mean the show not her

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@coolbean @desea i didn't know you're that career focused you'd commit atrocities for it (it's an isekai of some hr guy who got killed by an ex employee)
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@snacks @coolbean tbf god did railroad her into the frontlines somewhat, but half the reason shes there is because shes some level of autistic i think

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@coolbean @desea and god is like "fukken atheists" and sends him to magical germany pre ww1 as a little orphan baby girl
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@snacks @desea depending on the type of atrocity id do it for free
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@ug no no you misunderstand. the partisan kind. murder nazi collaboraters etc. etc.
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@coolbean @desea i think the worst she did was sieging a city and bombing it ti the ground because they harbored some resistance fighters. She usually avoids war crimes even tho that stuff hasn't been defined in that world yet because she's afraid of future career issues
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@desea @coolbean the author is anti capitalist and wants to show what being a cog in the capitalist machine can do to people afaik. So, the show is still anti war btw
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@desea I'm guessing you mean the anime and not the character, who isn't the hero of the story
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@snacks @coolbean @desea HR would do this without any God involved
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@snacks @coolbean i have my interpretation of the shows message that i dont want to sway any polltakers with, i do make polls if im interested in the opinion of others

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@protos @snacks @desea come to think of it yea they're pretty used to being cogs in evil machinations
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@protos @coolbean @desea that's the point kinda as per my other post
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@desea Its an interesting thing maybe but I never stomached reading more than half a book. Carlo Zen is said to write quite nice prose (for LN standards anyway) But the books are quite long-winded in their explanations...

The anime was fine I guess. For japanese media it is normally safe to assume its more anti-war than not. So I guess showing the gruesomeness and loopholes in war-laws can do that.

I just really hate the japanese fetish for german-ish inspired millitaries (though to be fair this is located in germany Rhine-Front and stuff)

I never did read far enough to give you a conclusive answer though. Tanya though is just opportunistic maybe?
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@stefan i do mean the show as a whole not the character, i have half a mind to delete and post the poll again with clearer phrasing

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@Rania @coolbean @snacks @desea I was going to post some palestine gore but then I remembered that this is a scammer
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@protos @coolbean @snacks @desea
No, I'm not a fraud. I did a verification process at Mastdon, and you can talk to Mr. Aral.

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@ug not strictly, i do actually think the soviet response to the 1956 hungarian uprising was completely unjustified (dare i say unconsciounable) and that they shouldve conceded to at least some of the students' demands (replace rákosi, hold elections without dismantling the current system. just get the super corrupt ones out. withdraw red army troops in accordance with the piece treaty, better wages and conditions for industrial workers and allow mefesz to operate their own newspaper)

past that theres some negotiating room for the other demands as well but these 5 specifically should be more than doable (though to clarify in regards to the student newspaper: this is because they've already proven they can organise in private so giving them the ability to do so in the open at least lets you keep an eye on what they're up to so you dont get surprised by the students getting fed up enough to attempt overthrowing rákosi by force)
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@protos @coolbean @snacks @desea
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@ug so like, im not as unnuanced as a tankie in the traditional sense. i think "if we concede to the hungarians that will just embolden others to demand similar concessions" isnt a valid justification to have the red army roll in on tanks and start massacring university students
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@ug not even necessarily. the hungarian uprising came in response to similar concessions being made in poland
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@coolbean @snacks @desea @protos
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@desea Cute loli tensei
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@snacks @desea @coolbean >some hr guy who got killed by an ex employee
Just when I thought it couldn't be anymore based
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@coolbean @snacks @desea
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@desea As someone who has read the light novels and seen the show its very anti-war. The main theme has always been emotion vs logic. passion vs pragmatism.

The antagonists are almost always passionate people driven by rage or lust or nationalism or faith.

While I very much agree the book can be dry bloated reading, the show understood the assignment and while I disagree on some changes there are others I really like.

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@desea I think one of the best scenes in the anime adaptation happens with Zettour and Tanya fighting back to back, showing not only their strong bond but their shared philosophy and mission.

Two individuals who keep fighting despite wanting to be doing anything else. Fighting to survive a world of madness collapsing around them.

It's focused on them, in that moment everything else is at the periphery. The show is leveraging your investment of these two characters and that itself says something.

It's saying this is what we believe our audience is invested in, these are the characters and the shared bond and ideology we're putting forward as the most important.

If you lack that investment, if you lack the connection to those characters and their shared struggle the scene falls flat.

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@Rasp all the more fucking hilarious seeing that final shot in season 2 of tanya in ildova

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@desea Honestly haven't gotten to it yet but I'm sure its precious

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