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Lilith Ashley Nyx Arson mk_demon_red

[hot take] how abuse is fostered and prospers in online (especially leftist & queer) communities / puritan culture, abuse dynamics, transphobia, infighting, discourse, kink & more
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first of all: it’s fine to not be into something. you don’t have to actively engage with everyone’s kinks. but don’t go around kinkshaming

a lot of people are subscribed to the reactionary idea that there are certain taboo kinks that are inherently bad and/or should be shunned

these are the kinds of ideas that have evolved into the current propagandized stereotype of queer people being sexual predators

the (uncomfortable) truth is that, unless there is actual direct harm caused, there isn’t really any kink that can (or should) be considered “too” kinky

this view is especially prominent when combined with the classic “but think of the kids!” argument - which, as always, often leads to kids being othered from communities that would otherwise claim to be protecting them

this idea also takes many forms (see: proship discourse, incest kinks, babyfur drama, etc) but it’s ultimately all part of the same culture war. it also extends into art, regurgitating the age old “video games cause violence” argument

the cycle of abuse that this causes is quite easy to understand:

  1. people with taboo kinks are made outcasts
  2. abusers have a community that accepts them
  3. victims develop taboo kinks as a trauma response
    <small>4. rinse & repeat</small>

the amount of queer people that are actively harming the community by subscribing to these ideas is genuinely baffling. you’d think we’d know better than to use the enemy’s weapon against ourselves

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re: [hot take] how abuse is fostered and prospers in online (especially leftist & queer) communities / puritan culture, abuse dynamics, transphobia, infighting, discourse, kink & more
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@root I do think that some of it would be mitigated if №2 ceased & abusers were rejected, non-traumagenic would still be there (and traumagenic but not from abusers part of the communities) and still have most of the other negative dynamics kinkshaming and attempted enforced normality have, though.

The enforced normality and puritanical brainrot being evicted would mitigate a lot more, although abusers would still need explicit rejection (so that part doesn't really change in either case).
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re: [hot take] how abuse is fostered and prospers in online (especially leftist & queer) communities / puritan culture, abuse dynamics, transphobia, infighting, discourse, kink & more
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words so good i would print them and put them on the wall of my room
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[hot take] how abuse is fostered and prospers in online (especially leftist & queer) communities / puritan culture, abuse dynamics, transphobia, infighting, discourse, kink & more
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@root Could you explain how 1. and 2. connect more exactly?

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re: [hot take] how abuse is fostered and prospers in online (especially leftist & queer) communities / puritan culture, abuse dynamics, transphobia, infighting, discourse, kink & more
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@root Imagine thinking that pointing out something is gross is 'using the enemy's weapon.' You’re so deep in the echo chamber that you think having a standard for hygiene or social decency is a 'culture war.'

The reality is that your 'inclusive' worldview actually hurts the community because it replaces actual standards with a 'everything goes' mentality. When you tell people that nothing is 'too kinky,' you’re basically admitting you have no internal compass. You're just defending a lifestyle where 'gross' is an acceptable substitute for 'meaningful.'

Be honest and Stop pretending your preferences are a sociological breakthrough and just admit that some things are objectively unappealing to the general public.
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re: [hot take] how abuse is fostered and prospers in online (especially leftist & queer) communities / puritan culture, abuse dynamics, transphobia, infighting, discourse, kink & more
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@root abuse is fostered when disgusting and uncomfortable things are normalized, and people are humiliated for sexual purposes. That's abuse in my opinion. Soft coercion
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@based_tranny @root objectively unappealing? what the fuck is that supposed to mean? the question if something is appealing or not can never be objectivly answered, even if it is about the so called "general public" finds appealing. this is in it's nature subjective.
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@condret @root @meso you're fighting a dictionary, not m. obviously individual taste is subjective, but the fact that a vast majority of people find something repulsive is an objective statistical reality. there's a massive difference between 'i don't like this flavor of ice cream' and biological repulsion to someone shitting/pissing in your mouth.

the fact that you're spiraling over the word 'objective' instead of addressing the actual point about optics just shows how fragile this take is. It's giving 'i can’t handle any form of judgment so i'll pretend social consensus doesn't exist'.
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