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The average American straight woman gives her boyfriend her whole paycheck she earned working and has to ask permission to spend her own money

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Girl kill this idiot and date people who aren't Americans or retarded

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This kind of shit and the whole "you're not allowed to have friends and if you don't let me go through your phone you're cheating" absolutely insane death to America

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@wyatt if my partner told me I needed to give them my paycheck I'd drop them in an instant. How can you hate yourself this much

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@vriska Vreezy somehow finding the best examples of "retard made for eachother" once more
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@vriska sounds like a pimp. there was a terminology especially for that. basically slavery "because he loves me". later because he has your money, your passport, and all other important things.

meanwhile the dude tries to force her to do more and more cam stuff to earn money
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@grillchen this is how a large majority of American straight couples act

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@nerthos this is like 90% of Americans lmao

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@nerthos I can't believe people live like this. If my boyfriend tried to demand control of my money I'd give him exactly enough to spend one night in a motel and change the locks lmao

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@vriska a hundred years of work to make people unable to communicate or have functional relationships
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@nerthos what can you expect from a country founded by people who were so repulsive even the English didn't want them

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@vriska Some people just sabotage eachother, some sabotage themselves. I can never tell which is which.
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@vriska can we kill all men in general just to make sure

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@vriska Australia crying in the corner
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@nerthos this kind of dynamic is 100% "idiot moid who watches Andrew Tate and is an evangelical " and "the dumbest most insecure loser girl on earth who got brainwashed by evangelicals" and this is most of America. The worst country in earth that isn't England or Israel

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@fiore I mean this is her fault for putting up with it too. Besides I know like a dozen cool men. Two of my best friends are men even

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@vriska oh yea me too lowk . but like . we can keep thosr like ina zoo so we can remember these primitive forms of life and how they used to live

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@vriska Truly made for eachother, deserving of the hell they created for themselves.
I can't hate on the guy as much as you do though considering how utterly retarded my ex could be, there were times I genuinely had to micromanage things that she should be doing on her own because she fucked up in creative and incredible ways at the most simple tasks. I'm glad to have met some (2) women I feel I can take my eyes off for 5 minutes and not expect anything to be on fire when I look back.
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@fiore @vriska Let's have a death battle, Vriska can promote it in wrestling style. We'll stream it worldwide. We'll get two hermaphrodites to commentate as a neutral party.
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@nerthos I just can't imagine anyone hating themselves enough to tolerate that kind of bullshit.

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@vriska @fiore They'll have to rename it bloodway when I'm done with them. Making it to sex champ baby! the belt will be mine.
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@vriska I've seen such cases. I've also seen some cases where someone just realizes it's better to let someone else control something because they just fucking suck at it and know they'll fuck it up, kinda like "make sure there's no alcohol in the house I can't trust myself"
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@nerthos alcoholism is also a moral failure tbh and my least woke take is that the disease model of addiction is bullshit

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@vriska @fiore I don't know the guy so I will do as the african Hitler Gang did and believe he was a great American warrior that knew no fear. I'll make him proud.
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@nerthos I say this as an Irish person so you know i mean it lol

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@nerthos @fiore he was a comedian who became a pro wrestler and his entire bit was being a heel by only wrestling women. He was hilarious

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@vriska I can't really talk about it because I'm naturally immune to addiction tbh. I have no idea how it works in the inner world of the addict, you know I just force through whatever when it's psychological and inconvenient.
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@vriska @fiore Sounds awesome. I wish he was here to coach us for this upcoming sex wrestle.
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@nerthos people genuinely should be able to just stop. In the situation where physical withdrawal can kill you you do need medical help but the evangelical twelve step cults who say things like "if you've ever had a drinking problem you can never have a beer again" are delusional and weak

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@nerthos I literally just stopped doing heroin. It's not hard

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@vriska Yeah that's one of the reasons I respect you, we're the same in this, we just decide things and do them. I have literally never respected anyone who uses drugs other than you.
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@vriska honestly if i saw a relationship like among my frens, i would take all the information and go to some consultation thingie for abuse. not because i am the victim. also getting a step out of this must be her choice i think. just having maybe giving her a package with all usable information or something seems to be usefull. idk never been in such a situation (luckily) because in my world this isnt normal at all.

well now that i think about it it was normal in the 60s. male only income was normal for families. since the women usually did not "work" (as in paid jobs) much, if they did they often just gave the money to the husband since he was the only one with a bank account and such stuff.... dark times
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@grillchen oh yeah I've had friends in this situation before and I've done everything I can to help them. But it's also like. Please. There are ways out. I know people who have so many safe ways out and don't take them

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@nerthos I am literally the world's best drug user hehe

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@vriska One of many reasons we have eachother's friendship champ belt :)
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@nerthos when my mom dies I'm going to quit drinking for a long time because I know if I don't I'd fuck myself up. AAcucks could never

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@vriska @nerthos mhh when i read up on addictions, studies often say nicotine is harder to quit than heroin. can u confirm this? (i tried neither, so no clue....)
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@grillchen @nerthos yes actually. Literally the only substance I've ever used I've had issues with are cigs.

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@vriska Hey you owe me one "get absolutely fucking wasted way past what's reasonable and rant while you do" day lol you already offered
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@grillchen @nerthos this is partially because cig companies make them hyper addictive on purpose and because they're really easy and cheap and legal to get

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@nerthos well of course I'm not ever quiting forever heh

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@vriska I'll get a brand new bucket for the day!
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@vriska @nerthos i suspect heroin seems hard to quit, because people who take heroin are usually at a big low. once their overall circumstances changes it might be much easier to quit. while cigs try to keep u no matter what u do in life.
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@grillchen @nerthos once you get through the first 36 hours it's really easy to quit dope in my experience

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@vriska you're NOT fucking up my garden, nigger
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@grillchen @nerthos I think old people should be allowed to use any drugs they want tbh

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@grillchen @vriska Japanese special meth area for 75+ year olds supporter spotted
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@nerthos @grillchen I think society would be better if we let boomers do drugs. They'd be too fucked up to ruin it more

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@vriska @grillchen Eskimo burial but it's drugs instead of ice
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@vriska @grillchen I think we should just use pillows. With drugs they'd just burn all the wealth in like a year and fully turn the world into India. A single pillow can take on thousands of boomers.
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@vriska @nerthos we did legalize dope and it changed nothing on the boomer front...
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@grillchen @nerthos state mandated boomer fent rations instead of social security

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@vriska @nerthos the fuck when a 90 year old steals my job because he took so many drugs he does my job 10 times faster but for free
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@nerthos @grillchen few understand this also fuck this guy for calling the L the El

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@grillchen @vriska Ardennes doses of meth on every boomer and we send them to fight other boomer groups.
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@vriska @grillchen I gotta respect that you never got particularly mad at me for believing the solution to the drug problem is to just poison the drugs. The guy is just doing that but at a lower level. At the El.
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@nerthos @grillchen I don't think you even need to poison them. People who can handle their shit will handle it. People who can't? Natural selection

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@vriska @grillchen I mean my goal was just to make it immensely poisonous to cause a total economic collapse in the drug business and the following war due to internal hierarchy debts and finger pointing over the blame. It'd wipe most of the users, sellers and producers in a very bloody but relatively fast way, including government guys that were involved.
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@nerthos @grillchen if you could get 99% pure heroin at a gas station for 4 bucks people who couldn't handle it would sort themselves out and people who could would live a better life

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@nerthos @vriska FernWoah we just do it anyway and replace the missing workers with fresh workers from the outside. this way we also get rid of germans long term! win win!
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@grillchen @nerthos we need to get rid of the English first

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@grillchen @nerthos I hold a lot of animosity towards pretty much all of Europe for not doing anything about how England was treating Ireland but I think Spain is pretty cool

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@nerthos @vriska without drugs hospital personal and restaurants worker wouldnt work.
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@grillchen @vriska I use both hospitals and restaurants about once a year, and it's usually "I went there to keep someone company"
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@vriska @grillchen I mean it was never about who could or couldn't handle it, just about dialing back the clock to pre-recreational drug society. Otherwise I would just propose the usual "kill every thief/rapist/scammer/whatever no questions asked bullet to the head"
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@vriska @nerthos based take. every time i’ve done drugs when i probably shouldn’t have it’s only because i wanted to. it’s never felt like it’s not a conscious decision to me. like what, just because you’re an “addict” you’re possessed? there’s a demonic force living your hand that makes it so you can’t put down the cup?

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@nerthos @grillchen I think if everything was legal and only sold by the government it would be good overall

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@grillchen @vriska Funnily enough I also dream of rebuilding pre-occupation Germany, because both the HRE and imperial Germany were awesome. WWI was because the English couldn't stand the Germans rapidly overtaking them in industry and naval power.
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@nerthos @vriska >pre-recreational drug society

uhh this seems just pre society
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@grillchen @vriska It wasn't a thing at any meaningful scale until post world wars, except for the opium regions, and that was also a relatively short period.
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@grillchen @nerthos true. There's pretty solid evidence that language only exists because early homonids were doing shrooms

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@nerthos @grillchen brother people have been drinking alcohol and eating hallucinogenic plants and smoking weed and tobacco since gilgamesh times

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@vriska @grillchen My compromise is red light districts but for drugs. If you have no debts and no duties that dying would fuck up, you can just go there and do drugs and there's a specialized hospital at the door. Can't take them outside. For each one of you there's a million fent zombies and sadly the retards always ruin it for everyone else.
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@nerthos @grillchen if fent were legal and cheap there would not be many of them for long tbh but I see your point

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@vriska @grillchen You know better than the "but alcohol" argument. I'm not arguing for a dry law scheme, simply dialing it back to pre-world-wars normalcy where it was a pretty fringe thing.
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@vriska @grillchen It's not ideal but it's the same reason we're forced to deal with bullshit like car insurance or not being able to buy anti air missiles for recreational use.
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@vriska @nerthos im pro legalisation in general. some people need help not punishment. producing and selling drugs depends.

only thing i wanna see outlawed (and it will be next year here) are one time vapes. they have a real fucking battery and are just dumb and evil. worst use of resources
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@nerthos @vriska wine and beer were common. pot depending on region
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@grillchen @vriska I'm not against a bunch of guys getting drunk at a wedding or the village shaman doing shrooms or ayahuasca in the forest. I'm against junkies shitting up my world. I have no sympathy for them and do not believe any actionable form of regaining the value they substract from society is compatible with the moral framework of a healthy community so extermination is the most practical solution.
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@grillchen @vriska I'm also fine with the whole "you're 80 years old and retired? yeah sure binge acid for 4 days until your heart can't handle it if you want" thing. I think people have the right to choose their death as long as they do not have oaths or debts to uphold, since those are more important than life and self-determination.
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@nerthos @grillchen @vriska kinda happened during the prohibition and didnct do shit except kill random people
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