i thought my being and becoming idea was from kashmir shaivism but sri aurobindo is a vedantic and has the same idea -.-

maybe i should just call him auribindo and ditch the sri, he has some great takes though

@georgia come up with your own ideas nigga

@meso @georgia
I used to also have a lot of ideas about mysticism and the occult and then I got employed

@dagda @meso your ideas must not have been very good if you abandoned jnana for kama karma

@dagda @georgia mysticism and the occult is a waste and fake and gay. focus on yourself nigga stop ignoring yourself to focus on some retarded frameworks to make thinking more bearable instead of confronting reality.

@meso @dagda i dont like using this word but thats an extremely npc take. im not talking empty masturbatory mysticism like alchemy or gnosticism but about yoga, the summum bonum of human existence. if its a waste of time for you youre doing it wrong. its not a framework, its the science of consciousness. and ignoring yoga is ignoring your self (atman). focusing on "improving your life" at the expense of spiritual wellbeing is the essence of our godless yuga

@georgia @meso
>not being ready for the gnostipill

@dagda @meso you just explained why you stopped caring about the occult when you became employed. gnosticism is shit.

@georgia @dagda dawg you are the npc im sorry georgia but your obsession with "spiritual wellbeing" which has nothing to do with your actual wellbeing, mental state or human existence, is extremely indicative of being someone who cannot focus on anything beyond dogma you can blindly adopt and believe in, not really attempting to tackle life at its core, just finding solice in writings by others

@georgia @dagda and i have a lot of respect for you but to say that employing your own brain to think about life, existence and your human behavior and experience at its core is NPC behavior and blindly adhering to Religion, Southeast Asia is not is a ridiculous view of things. not abstracting your thoughts is very difficult and oftentimes painful especially if the things you've dealt with in life were hard, but it's way more meaningful and gives you something tangible, and correct.

@meso @georgia
actual wellbeing and existence is just short-term dogma too tho. If that's the trvth than every coach would be some kind of messiah. idk she should just find some balance and go outside or something

@dagda @georgia coaches are retarded. they're grifters and they're empty inside

@dagda @georgia it's not about actual wellbeing and existence, it's about understanding yourself and having a map of your brain. and beyond that, understanding what others do and why they do it and figuring out a framework to explain human behavior in general. religion is not the answer, just because mainstream religion is trash doesn't mean mysticism and occultism isn't so just as much

@dagda @georgia think for yourself is my final message Goodbye

@meso @georgia
who isn't these days

@dagda @georgia also PS i'm gonna behead every single instagram white woman that talks about mindfulness inshallah

@dagda @georgia nobody in the mainstream will ever tell you anything of value because to go on the internet and talk about that stuff you usually have ulterior motives like money or mental retardation

@meso @dagda @georgia Is now soyfullness

@dagda @georgia @meso
20 seconds pre-employment: it's all the Talmud. The Jews WANTED 6 million to die in the holocaust because it's part of their prophesy. That's why they provoked Germany with economic warfare, they are the third Reich, the true heirs of Rome. And Jews still hate Germany, and white people, because they see us as Rome, who destroyed the Second temple. They want to subjugate white gentiles and turn us into the golem race because they recognise our power, our descending from the races above the Riphean Mountains. They want to destroy us and build the third temple to humiliate us, that's why they needed the state of Israel.

0.1 seconds after employment: did you catch the game last night?

@meso @dagda if you read my posts you would know i disagree with half of what i read except literal scripture and even what other people call scripture i often critique. believing in God and caring about correct religious philosophy is just called caring about whats right and true.

@meso @dagda i came to a version of hinduism by life experience including religious experiences, not by dogma

@dagda @meso this is a good take

@meso @dagda you speak like someone who has only encountered trash religions where blind faith is the highest virtue.

@georgia @dagda your blind faith is the highest virtue

@meso @dagda you simply have a dearth of information and thus your comments are completely baseless. you misunderstand me, and misunderstand religion, and misunderstand my religion.

@georgia @dagda you pick out things that align to your subconscious view of things but you refuse to let the subconscious out and confront the issues that those scriptures abstract. obviously you'd reject a lot of the stuff written because it doesn't make sense, but you can come to better conclusions if you separate yourself from the need to adhere to anything.

@yomiel @dagda @meso if racism is your form of mysticism its no wonder you think mysticism is bereft

@georgia @dagda @yomiel he's just parodying romefags

@meso @dagda yoga is the best way to understand consciousness. your version of psychoanalysis is not, the scientific method is not, because it only investigates the mind, not what is beyond the mind. also, i already have come to better conclusions than many i have read. again, you lack knowledge of me and the subject matter im studying. im not just reading the words of multiple commentators and subcommentators, im looking word-by-word at the original sanskrit text.

@meso @dagda @yomiel the spicy take is that rome won because ashekanazi and sephardic jews are half descended from roman converts

@georgia @meso @yomiel
>it was always the italians

@georgia @dagda @meso
I was writing something more applicable to dagda.

Besides, not to be too dismissive or redditesque, but mysticism is fake because it's fake, regardless of it's form.

@georgia @dagda you're not studying anything, you're reading the opinions of others and adapting them to yourself, trying to find a meaning beyond what's there but failing to approach it in a way where you could actually be enlightened. i am not talking about scientific method, or beyond the mind, or psychoanalysis in the freudian sense. you can analyze your psychology and others' psychology, as long as you maintain objectivity, understanding and don't let dogmas such as Freud's bonkers shit or religious bonkers shit or anything influence you and put you into a framework that while easy does not really make you understand anything. perhaps a reason you are doing so much studying and feel you need to do more is because it isn't getting you anywhere. I don't mean to be rude, I'm sorry that I am

@yomiel @georgia @dagda adachi always with the good takes

@yomiel @dagda @georgia @meso

I know refer to Christianity as Christian Mythology

@yomiel @dagda @meso youve clearly only encountered navel-gazing or credulous forms of "mysticism" not based on actual divine experience or revelation. even the term "mysticism" bears the mantle of the enlightenment disdain for religious experiences that cant be explained with muh facts and logic. im not "mystical", i acknowledge that ultimate reality is beyond mind, senses, and causality, and thus beyond empiricism.

@yomiel @georgia @meso
I just think the transitional period between natural religions and early judaism/ islam/ eastern stuff is interesting, also magick and paranormalslop on /x/.
I never got into antisemitism because it's loreslop for low IQ autists, like Destiny 2 lore that just exists to keep people busy for the sake of being busy, quantity that suggests depth that is actually absent

@georgia @yomiel @meso
this or magic which is just knowledge outside the scope of current day Epistemology. Still, diving too deep is kind of circular and also a great kickstart for psychosis so I'd rather not

@meso @dagda
again you fail to understand based on a brevity of information. im acquiring knowledge and deliberating about it intensely to learn it in a way that is meaningful to me. its not rote learning at all. i acquire knowledge through multiple channels and synergize them through the prism of my own existing knowledge and experiences, including divine experiences. its called "learning". i enjoy studying because i enjoy learning. you should try it instead of judging me from a perspective of nescience.

@georgia @dagda >i acquire knowledge through multiple channels and synergize them through the prism of my own existing knowledge and experiences, including divine experiences.
this sentence means nothing

@georgia @dagda im sorry but i dont believe you can write a sentence like this in a non-npc train of thought

@dagda @meso @yomiel its actually just like learning any other subject except more dangerous for those with bad qualities and more rewarding for those with good ones

@meso @dagda this is just a massive "no u". try harder

@georgia @dagda it's addressing a specific part of what you said it's not a no u

@georgia @dagda @yomiel you don't learn this, you figure it out

@georgia @dagda @yomiel your view on the nature of this is incorrect. it's not a subject to learn. thinking is not a subject to learn.

@meso @dagda @yomiel to figure something out is to learn it. everything that is not innate is learned. and if you were such a critical thinker as you think you are, you wouldnt have views on life that amount to jordan peterson tier platitudes while rejecting the summum bonum of human existence out of ignorance.

@georgia @dagda @yomiel they are not Jordan Peterson tier pladuristas they're far more intricate than can be said with words which is why it's hard to communicate it and why things like religions and philosophies try to abstract it to convey it to the masses, but ultimately make it about something else like "spiritual wellbeing". I don't like Jordan Peterson nor do I care about anything he has to say nor have I read anything he's said except his rant about You enemies of Gaia you critical Marxist pigs We will not bow down to you that was fucking hilariously nonsensical

@georgia @dagda @yomiel it is really ignorance in the pursuit of knowledge what youre displaying. Subscribing to a belief is ignorance, it's easier. It can be bliss, but it won't get you anywhere if you're truly a curious soul which I'm sure you are. Which is why I care about telling you this, you seem interested in finding things out

@meso @dagda @yomiel theres nothing harmful in subscribing to beliefs if theyre true and you stay open minded. its not better to be so skeptical you dont believe the truth.

@georgia @dagda @meso
The problem there is the 'truth' part, however.

In spirituality and mysticism, how can you believe anything is true? It's fair to be open-minded, but what has convinced you that what you currently believe is true?

@yomiel @georgia @dagda religion is designed to give you "answers" and to subject you to solely believe in them. if you're just cherrypicking shit it defeats the point of believing in a religion because what the fuck are you talking about nigga "God is a stream of consciousness that exerts vibrations on the verdantic and quadratic, he is but a manifold, radiator and a crankshaft position sensor"

@meso @dagda @georgia
At least traditional religions (I.E Christianity, Judaism, Islam) attempt to justify themselves historically. Though they still ultimately fail to deliver the burden on proof.

That being said, most Christians adhere to the rules extremely inconsistently regardless, and have a myriad of conflicting beliefs.

@yomiel @dagda @georgia a trve avtist would consider, why did the people who created these religions create them? it's always about power if you look at it historically. it's made to be convincing but whatever georgia's posting right now is the equivalent of a WASP talking about how jesus is king but she doesnt agree with the whole socialism thing. really, just because it's indian doesn't mean you aren't being the same as them.

@meso @dagda @georgia
I think that's unfair to say, some religions definitely evolved 'naturally', especially ancient forms of religion like Paganism in Europe or Shintoism in Japan. Even the religions formed more recently, like Talmudic Judaism or Christianity it's hard to say were definitely about power or a desire to control.

@yomiel @dagda @georgia there has historically been a connection between clergy and aristocracy, it was definitely about a desire to unite and therefore control the local population. you can definitely say christianity is about power and a desire to control because wars were fought for millennia and populations controlled and atrocities justified "in the name of" who's who in terms of religion, wheres it's just a cover for power.

@meso @dagda @georgia
There has been, of course. But how fair is it to say it started as that? Christians were persecuted in early Rome. Jews were persecuted in parts of the Roman empire, hell they went to war with Hadrian. There were people in the past willing to kill and die for these beliefs, not for land or money, but genuinely over the belief itself.

@yomiel @dagda @georgia @meso

> That being said, most Christians adhere to the rules extremely inconsistently regardless, and have a myriad of conflicting beliefs.

It couldn't be any other way, given faith is a spook.

@yomiel @dagda @georgia yeah nigga barbarians were persecuted in rome does that mean they didnt want power and influence

@yomiel @dagda @georgia it was never about the belief itself, it was about power, land and wealth. the belief unites people. try uniting niggas with real thoughts and opinions. youll get niggas like georgia who need to be converted to another set of beliefs cuz they just cant without that. most people need this. this is why whole civilizations are built on religion. not out of a desire to believe in the one true god or whatever.

@yomiel @dagda @meso what has convinced me is my religious experiences and undeniable miracles in my life

@meso @dagda @yomiel the notion that religion is primarily about control is a western reformation era belief. religion is about love of God when done correctly. you can be content to reject all religions while ill be content to have my own religious beliefs from things God has told me :)

@meso @dagda @yomiel >doesnt understand it
>therefore it must be false

@georgia @dagda @yomiel i never said i dont understand it. there's nothing to understand. it's like reading the star wars lore but that makes more sense than whatever your last post was

@georgia @dagda @yomiel I think what you're doing is frankly blasphemous, to pretend that God is telling you things when we both know that is not true is in my view of God, insulting

@sally @dagda @georgia @yomiel faith is a tool of unity by the elites

@meso @dagda @yomiel God literally does tell me things i wouldnt lie about that because i know people are just going to think im schizophrenic. im being completely serious.

@meso @dagda @yomiel and you cant say you love God while viewing every religion as inherently corrupt and while viewing me reading divine revelation as a waste of time and not "true learning"

@sally @dagda @georgia @meso
It is possible that one could maintain a consistent belief system based on a set of rules, like Church of England Protestantism or Catholicism. I think that people who truly do that are exceedingly rare, however.

@georgia @dagda @meso
This is obviously subjective, though. This is far from proof and those who sincerely believe that God has been relieved to them by miracles or personal experiences are usually schizophrenic.

@yomiel @dagda @meso i dont need people to believe me because i know its true. some of the experiences ive had ive shared with others.