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pistolero
p@fsebugoutzone.org
They want $100 to replace the rear windshield in this truck, so I did it myself and I have concluded that it's worth it.
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pistolero
p@fsebugoutzone.org
@bajax Yeah, but some things are a pain in the ass. This was a pain in the ass. $100 would have been a deal.
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realcaseyrollins ✝️
realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
@p Knowing myself, the only thing I should be doing to my car manually is changing the tires, license plates, and popping out the wipers before it snows.
The big thing I make sure to remember though is just go to #JiffyLube instead of the dealership. Not only does the dealership charge more, but the last time I went (for a routine inspection BTW), they basically broke one of my brakes and I had to get it repaired 😫
The big thing I make sure to remember though is just go to #JiffyLube instead of the dealership. Not only does the dealership charge more, but the last time I went (for a routine inspection BTW), they basically broke one of my brakes and I had to get it repaired 😫
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pistolero
p@fsebugoutzone.org
@bajax Nah, the adhesive was not so bad, it was mainly that I had to remove all those goddamn plastic pegs with a claw hammer. (I cut my hand but that was because lazy → no gloves, so I'm not counting that towards the pain-in-the-ass score.)
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@IceCubeSoup @bajax Those things are fuckin' awful nowadays.
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@realcaseyrollins Well, good to be able to do it, but some things are worth having someone else do, some aren't.
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pistolero
p@fsebugoutzone.org
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@realcaseyrollins @p JiffyLube charges out the ass for what basically amounts to replacing filters that look too grey and topping up a few fluids
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@nicholas @bajax @p @IceCubeSoup
> physical buttons
button count is increasing again
> qwerty slides
lol
> swappable batteries
lion batteries last forever
> headphone jacks
why? if you're an audiophile, why would you listen on the device with the highest electronic noise ever?
> physical buttons
button count is increasing again
> qwerty slides
lol
> swappable batteries
lion batteries last forever
> headphone jacks
why? if you're an audiophile, why would you listen on the device with the highest electronic noise ever?
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pistolero
p@fsebugoutzone.org
@judgedread @bajax I feel like I don't need to do this often enough to justify the tool, but the auto parts store didn't have it, just pry bars, and I figured a claw hammer was sufficient. The truck is real beat-up anyway, it'd be hard to damage it in a way that matters.
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Brass Case Autist
awl@shitposter.world
@p@fsebugoutzone.orgif they’re what I’m thinking they are a flat-blade screwdriver can pop the “rivet” up and typically you can pull them up @bajax
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pistolero
p@fsebugoutzone.org
@nicholas @IceCubeSoup @bajax
> Smartphones peaked in 2012, change my mind.
It was already it's over by 2012. N900 was released in 2009; by 2012, it was nearly impossible to get root on your phone.
> Smartphones peaked in 2012, change my mind.
It was already it's over by 2012. N900 was released in 2009; by 2012, it was nearly impossible to get root on your phone.
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pistolero
p@fsebugoutzone.org
@lain @nicholas @IceCubeSoup @bajax
> button count is increasing again
It's not a keyboard.
> lion batteries last forever
> why? if you're an audiophile, why would you listen on the device with the highest electronic noise ever?
It's the one that doesn't require a menu and works with everything. It's usually not noisy unless you put gunk in there but there is no chance of "No, let me try to get my phone to stop associating with the speaker so your phone can talk to it...why is it still not picking it up?", a thing I saw happen this year.
I wanna type using buttons on a device where I have root and no spyware.
> button count is increasing again
It's not a keyboard.
> lion batteries last forever
> why? if you're an audiophile, why would you listen on the device with the highest electronic noise ever?
It's the one that doesn't require a menu and works with everything. It's usually not noisy unless you put gunk in there but there is no chance of "No, let me try to get my phone to stop associating with the speaker so your phone can talk to it...why is it still not picking it up?", a thing I saw happen this year.
I wanna type using buttons on a device where I have root and no spyware.
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@p @nicholas @bajax @IceCubeSoup there's no device where you have a root and no spyware. 'reflections on trusting trust' is a thousand years old by now, you can't proof security with tech, you have to infer it via economics.
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@mitchconner @IceCubeSoup @bajax @nicholas "We'll deign to allow the peasants to unlock the bootloader on this Android device so they can run different kinds of Android, the main almost open-ish of source thing." 
People complain if an aarch64 kernel patch to run a chip isn't upstreamed fast enough but then as soon as it has a 4G modem in it, expectations drop until they're fine with no buttons and a kernel that Google patched and shoved firmware blobs into and the only shell you get is essentially a terminal emulator with a UML kernel embedded and the manufacturer "allowing" you to flash it with a different image that you didn't compile.
Straight to the GNUlag with every phone manufacturer in anno domini $current_year.
People complain if an aarch64 kernel patch to run a chip isn't upstreamed fast enough but then as soon as it has a 4G modem in it, expectations drop until they're fine with no buttons and a kernel that Google patched and shoved firmware blobs into and the only shell you get is essentially a terminal emulator with a UML kernel embedded and the manufacturer "allowing" you to flash it with a different image that you didn't compile.
Straight to the GNUlag with every phone manufacturer in anno domini $current_year.
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pistolero
p@fsebugoutzone.org
@lain @IceCubeSoup @bajax @nicholas Pretty sure there exist computers without spyware and that I own some of them; I don't know why this form factor is exempt. Anyway, I'm not trying to prove security, I'd just really like to be able to run reasonable software that Google/Apple didn't write.
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Phantasm
phnt@fluffytail.org
@lain @nicholas @bajax @p @IceCubeSoup
>lion batteries last forever
I would like to use my devices after 4 years.
>why? if you're an audiophile, why would you listen on the device with the highest electronic noise ever?
I've declared a crusade against audio dropouts and headphones that are paperweights after 3 years of heavy use. (Good job Sony for providing a jack that doesn't need battery power to work on the XM4s; Fuck you Sony for making your headphones optimized for shitty EDM.)
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>lion batteries last forever
I would like to use my devices after 4 years.
>why? if you're an audiophile, why would you listen on the device with the highest electronic noise ever?
I've declared a crusade against audio dropouts and headphones that are paperweights after 3 years of heavy use. (Good job Sony for providing a jack that doesn't need battery power to work on the XM4s; Fuck you Sony for making your headphones optimized for shitty EDM.)
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final point good night
final point good night
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@lain @IceCubeSoup @bajax @nicholas @p Also on the note of repairability, were are in a time where unrepairable flagship devices are more repairable than everything else thanks to the sheer amount of people buying them. You'll have a hard time finding a usable battery replacement for a chinesium phone, but there is a good chance you can find one for Pixel/Galaxy/iDevices. Which is just sad.
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@phnt @nicholas @bajax @p @IceCubeSoup yeah, the most 'sustainable' phone is whatever the most popular iphone is, you can get that repaired and fixed everywhere
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pistolero
p@fsebugoutzone.org
@nuukaset @IceCubeSoup @bajax @lain @nicholas No, I'm not buying IBM PowerPC gear unless I get Blue Gene budget, but I don't think that's the only option. I built the kernel and the uboot binary and all the code running on the machine where I'm typing this and also on the server running it. Short of gcc getting its 
trust trusted , I think it's reasonable, but even a terrible shit-tier Windows all-in-one machine is less revolting than 99% of the phones you can buy.
trust trusted , I think it's reasonable, but even a terrible shit-tier Windows all-in-one machine is less revolting than 99% of the phones you can buy.
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nuukaset
@p @nicholas @bajax @lain @IceCubeSoup https://wafer.space/
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every mang his own mastas and natural aristocrate shieyt ~ thomas jefferson
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pistolero
p@fsebugoutzone.org
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ins0mniak@mikoshidata.cloud
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@mitchconner @p @IceCubeSoup @bajax @nicholas Bootloader unlocks on modern phones are practically useless unless they have good mainline Linux support.
Android ROMs are dead and so is rooting, long live stock firmware with more backdoors than features
Android ROMs are dead and so is rooting, long live stock firmware with more backdoors than features
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pistolero
p@fsebugoutzone.org
@nuukaset @IceCubeSoup @bajax @lain @nicholas I don't want to pretend the situation is acceptable but if I can build the bootloader and the kernel from source and then compile enough software to make the machine useful, that is the software side of the problem solved.
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@p I used to work at a car shop, we would often get cars with random busted parts, the explanation was always "the other shop was expensive so I did it myself".
The repair of their fuck up was always more expensive.
The repair of their fuck up was always more expensive.
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@mirage I had this issue with an old car I had gotten; I still have a discoloration on one of my fingers from the impact wrench getting stuck and spinning my hand and a bunch of grease getting into my skinned finger, and we still ended up having to tow the thing with the water pump and the starter in the back seat. This was just the rear windshield, though.
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@mitchconner @IceCubeSoup @bajax @nicholas @p What functional third party ROMs are there except for lineage OS and Graphene OS?
Last time I rooted my phone, about 2 years ago, pretty much every Magisk module that was available didn't work on Android 12, so I would say that rooting is useless nowadays.
Last time I rooted my phone, about 2 years ago, pretty much every Magisk module that was available didn't work on Android 12, so I would say that rooting is useless nowadays.
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@p
>impact wrench getting stuck and spinning my hand and a bunch of grease getting into my skinned finger
Ouch. Sounds painful.
Luckily I wore gloves most of the time, apart from some scars I got away pretty well compared to what some of my coworkers went through.
>This was just the rear windshield, though
Windshields are more fragile than one may think, had to deal with chipped windshields and windows a lot. But I'm glad it worked out for you.
>impact wrench getting stuck and spinning my hand and a bunch of grease getting into my skinned finger
Ouch. Sounds painful.
Luckily I wore gloves most of the time, apart from some scars I got away pretty well compared to what some of my coworkers went through.
>This was just the rear windshield, though
Windshields are more fragile than one may think, had to deal with chipped windshields and windows a lot. But I'm glad it worked out for you.
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@mirage > Ouch. Sounds painful.
Just skinned it; didn't really hurt so much. It hurt less than having to tow the thing. I was like 20 and had the Haynes book and my buddy was a gearhead et cetera.
> Windshields are more fragile than one may think
Luckily this truck, the whole thing comes out in one piece and you just shove the whole assembly in and it hangs on its own, didn't even require a second pair of hands. Still not fun having to disassemble half the dang cab to get to the screws but was doable.
Just skinned it; didn't really hurt so much. It hurt less than having to tow the thing. I was like 20 and had the Haynes book and my buddy was a gearhead et cetera.
> Windshields are more fragile than one may think
Luckily this truck, the whole thing comes out in one piece and you just shove the whole assembly in and it hangs on its own, didn't even require a second pair of hands. Still not fun having to disassemble half the dang cab to get to the screws but was doable.
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Nicholas Conrad
nicholas@aklp.clubheadphone jacks why? if you're an audiophile, why would you listen on the device with the highest electronic noise ever?
Not an audiophile, just want stuff to just work ^T^M. I tried wired usbc headphones, every little bump or jostle disconnects it, not only stopping playback, but also for some reason clearing the 'currently playing' memory, so even if I can wiggle it back in in my pocket, I can't resume playback without relaunching the app and manually pressing play. Impossible task while riding a motorcycle.
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@realcaseyrollins
Sometimes it’s about which dealer. And which vehicle. One of my local dealers is huge and has way too many jobs to need to fuck around with breaking people’s F-series. I had mine in for the first major maintenance in over four years and they literally didn’t find unexpected stuff. We expected to find worn brakes but even those were fine. I checked the invoice and the oil change they did was somehow the cheapest in the region.
@p @scathach
Sometimes it’s about which dealer. And which vehicle. One of my local dealers is huge and has way too many jobs to need to fuck around with breaking people’s F-series. I had mine in for the first major maintenance in over four years and they literally didn’t find unexpected stuff. We expected to find worn brakes but even those were fine. I checked the invoice and the oil change they did was somehow the cheapest in the region.
@p @scathach
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