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Mitsunee | 光音
mitsunee@mk.absturztau.be
@kaia I would’ve said flatpak, but it took OBS Studio an entire 9 months to update their runtime… on their official first party build…
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:gondola_head: 🌿 
Aroop Roelofs
finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza@kaia AppImages or FlatPaks pretty much yea...
Sometimes via a packagemanager (apt, dnf etc.) works but not always.
It's honestly one of the bigger things Linux is lacking in and probs will never really solve.
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@finlaydag33k @kaia I don't know how they do it, but Obsidian self-updates within the AppImage, so it's at least possible for that to happen. I don't know how viable it is for other projects to follow suit.
On Arch, I find many more things available through the default and AUR package repositories, so my updates are almost completely through that mechanism. A nice side-effect I hadn't realized before.
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Aroop Roelofs
finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza@ktneely To my knowledge, AppImages have a "framework" which you can't update and the "app's filesystem" (which the app has free reign in).
Obsidian is an Electron app, so when you press the "update" button in Obsidian, it probably updates the bits getting opened by Electron (maybe Electron itself?), not the AppImage framework.
A downside about the AUR is that you're also always on the bleeding edge, which may not always be desirable and also can lead to dependency hell (which is something that projects like AppImage and FlatPak try to avoid).
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AppImages are fine for somethings sure
another alternative is docker/podman, but that can be a little more complicated
@kaia
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lots of things are available with python-pip
things that aren't even python
@kaia
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I find python with pip to not be so complicated
you just need some sanity!
for instance
do not use the system python
(I build from source)
and use venvs to separate projects so you don''t pollute them with unnecessary dependencies
if you want me to elaborate on any of this just ask
@kaia
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and then there's e.g. Obsidian that recommends their AppImage which they update for you. it's a much nicer experience tbh. I feel taken care of. I want that.
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@kaia@brotka.st i stopped using meme distros for that reason
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@kaia@brotka.st oh it's proprietary no wonder it's not in the main repos :3
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RedTechEngineer
RedTechEngineer@fedi.lowpassfilter.link
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