who's the top

@mischievoustomato i actually realized first hand how pornbrained that dichotomy is today

that is not an answer

@mischievoustomato both/neither

answer properly when people ask you stuff

@mischievoustomato i told you, its a retarded pornbrained zoomeresque lingo

that was not an answer to my question

@mischievoustomato retarded gorilla nigger

i know you're doing a bit right now so i will just post this

@mischievoustomato how am i doing a bit when i told you why that question is stupid and then clarified

i didn't ask for your opinion on the question, and you replied properly when i told you it was not an answer to my question

@mischievoustomato @meso yes it is, the concept of top and bottom doesn’t and shouldn’t exist

i didnt ask for his opinion on the question

@arcana @mischievoustomato this nigga will never understand two people passionately kissing for 8 hours not acknowledging what a "top" and a "bottom"is

@mischievoustomato @meso but it doesn’t exist as a non pornbrained concept and so there’s no answer he can give other than “both/neither”

he could've just said "both/neither" and spared me from his nonsense

with some money, maybe eventually

@mischievoustomato @meso no it’s important to educate people

not gonna change my mind anyway

@mischievoustomato @arcana i didnt need money to do it its called talking to someone and flirting

well, the thing i'll do also involves talking at least

@mischievoustomato @arcana Hey whore can i kiss you for 8 hours this will totally feel good

@arcana @mischievoustomato @meso the term "side" is good here I think, for when you really don't care about topping or bottoming and like everything else

@arcana @meso @mischievoustomato we are aggressive creatures especially when it comes to possessions and offspring. If you are thinking of gay top bottom they are just playing the female and male energy. Males have female and women have male energy. What homosexual do is it naturally occurs that one chooses the female energy which by nature is submissive or receiving which is more appropriate

"how much do you charge for kissing?" "is there a time limit"

yep.

@mischievoustomato @Diceynes @arcana "yep" dawg you have never talked to a woman and think fucking a hooker is gonna feel good when you can just do that with your hand lmao no amount of money will buy you being loved you need to work on yourself to get that

i dont look to be loved, though. i just wanna have a body to fuck

@meso @mischievoustomato this is such a good take meso omg

@mischievoustomato @Diceynes @meso sad

improvise, adapt, overcome

@arcana @Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato Quite so, really.

at least i dont feel sad over it

@arcana @Diceynes @mischievoustomato thats very sad honestly

@mischievoustomato @Diceynes @arcana @meso Christ that's such a fucking sad way to approach life

not your problem though. i'm just gonna skip the stuff that's not reachable

@scathach @arcana @meso @mischievoustomato vampire grindset

@mischievoustomato @Diceynes @meso @scathach it’s your problem, fix this bad attitude

nah, i'm tired of of being hopeful for that. I'll fix other stuff but I won't change my mind on this

@mischievoustomato @Diceynes @meso @scathach then you are your own worst enemy

it is what it is

@mischievoustomato @Diceynes @meso @scathach it is what you make it

whatever

@scathach @Diceynes @arcana @meso @mischievoustomato
Not necessarily. Not everyone has the inclination for that sort of thing and that's fine. Plus you gotta have an emotionally available personality for a relationship to work and some people just don't have that, often as a result of trauma or even just the culmination of their development.

@VIPPER @Diceynes @arcana @mischievoustomato @scathach he does though I want my nigga to be happy not miserable all the time

@meso @Diceynes @arcana @mischievoustomato @scathach
Well if he is sad about it, telling him to fix himself isn't gonna do anything. A lot of positive reinforcement is needed to reverse his self-abandoning tendencies. And even then, he needs an avenue of meeting people in real life, good luck finding that these days if you're not interested in normie activities.

i'm just tired of caring about something i won't ever get, so i'm just gonna get what money can easily buy.

@mischievoustomato @arcana @meso @scathach @VIPPER you are going to end up like me if you don't do anything with the difference that you will need to work

you seem cool

@mischievoustomato @arcana @meso @scathach @VIPPER yeah. Thanks man. Appreciate it. Was thinking wifeless and being childless

yeah i get you. i dont really care about having kids. And well, wifeless is the default state for me

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER I wish you both the best

@arcana @Diceynes @meso @scathach @VIPPER in general i thank you. i know what to do to get what i want now

@arcana @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER Thank you very much. I am great though. But because of circumstances and the country I was born in. Which has led me to a good life. Hoping tomato gets to have a good life too when he passes the chaotic 20s

@Diceynes @arcana @meso @scathach @VIPPER we'll see if i get to leave the 20s

@mischievoustomato @arcana @meso @scathach @VIPPER I was only truly happy my entire childhood and adolescence and from age 34 to to now 41. Age 20s I didn’t like at all.

@Diceynes @arcana @meso @scathach @VIPPER i was happy up until age 13

@mischievoustomato @Diceynes @arcana @meso @scathach
Getting into a relationship happens by accident for a lot of people, i.e. by meeting someone through someone else or just by being in a wide enough circle of people. Don't let all the incel doom and gloom bullshit on the internet fool you. As long as you can vibe with other people, someone will like you. Finding people you vibe with IRL is the hard part, not getting someone to fall in love with you, because that's something that you can never really influence, it happens on its own.

@VIPPER @arcana @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach pretty sure in many western countries, I know in Norway everyone uses tinder to find a partner. It's transactional swiping and later you meet someone and may or not like the person. But I would think in countries like Peru it have more social culture just like here in Southern Europe

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER Yes, for me life really started getting good when I hit 30

@Diceynes @arcana @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach Damn, no wonder all the zoomers in the West are depressed. Dating apps are a really unnatural way to meet people. There's no spontaneity to it, no social proof to gauge if the other person is trustworthy either.

@VIPPER @Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach yes they aren’t healthy. Meeting people organically is importantly

@VIPPER @arcana @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach you can be lucky or not. Usually you will have to meet about 50-60 people to find the right. Just talking from what I heard from others that has gone on to have children etc after meeting on tinder

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER people make their own luck

@arcana @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER Usually luck is try and fail. The billionaire got rich by try and fail often with good starting point by having family money. They just got lucky by some series of random events coinciding and then goes on about their superior morale and work ethics like the boomers

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER nah, it’s by taking action really. Try and fail, and learn

@Diceynes @VIPPER @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach startup capital is also key but that can be obtained

@arcana @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER easy. That may have worked in 80s and 90s but if you think you are going to be a billionaire like the Silicon Valley funders in 2024 from scratch you are insane

ig. i don't have friends irl, and have been like that since 2018. So

i dont know the culture is

so its not happening

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER a lot of the Silicon Valley funders became rich during the 2000s and 2010s though

Regulation has made it much harder to get in, but it does happen

@arcana @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER yeah that’s what I meant. I mean the kardhadians got billions . But that’s a random event starting with kim making a sex video. I don’t see their superiority over people

@arcana @Diceynes @meso @scathach @VIPPER regulation sux

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER I’m talking about people like Garry Tan and others. It was much easier in the past in some ways, and especially in Europe it’s incredibly difficult, I have been explicitly told by investors “you’re in the wrong country”

@arcana @Diceynes @meso @scathach @VIPPER europe is not where tecb inventions are made, iirc

@arcana @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER everything is created to keep wealth in money of already rich families. The rest aren't welcome

yep. if you wanna be a rich family, become a rich family

@mischievoustomato @Diceynes @meso @scathach @VIPPER US innovates, China copies, Europe regulates

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER not exactly, there’s actually an overwhelming amount of new money these days. Old money is cast to the side often

@mischievoustomato @arcana @meso @scathach @VIPPER it's actually easy to become rich in a rich family. Got all the connections. A non wealthy one it isn't possible no longer

and even when i was in elementary or HS i had friendships there just because we were there, all ties were cut once i left those places

@mischievoustomato @VIPPER @arcana @meso @scathach I know because of my aunts husband that is from US about importance of connections

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER it is possible, more challenging, but it is possible. Charisma is probably the most useful skill

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER Connections have always been important but it’s very possible to get connections

pain

@arcana @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER like 0,1% possible

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER nope, and this mindset keeps people down

@arcana @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER it's reality of life

@arcana @VIPPER @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach think about it you live in a one room apartment blocks in suburbs and you are going to become a billionaire?

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER network with people

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER it’s definitely much harder in Europe

@arcana @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER what people the local drug addicts

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER People at your local golf course, theater, business conferences

@arcana @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER I know it's possible in US you go to military and rise in ranks and ton of possibilities open for work afterwards

@arcana @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER this isn't how Europe functions

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER the US just genuinely has way more opportunities, it’s absurd how different it is

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER yes, as said, Europe is very different. The UK still has some of that culture (though it pales compared to the US), but mainland Europe seems dire.

@arcana @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER another thing is the amount of people who tried to become rich with the amount that actually got rich. I would say 2 -3% actually makes it. Same with poker, some are extremely good top 5%, but the rest funds the good ones with their life savings

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER the ones who succeed and the ones who fail, it’s something that you can actually assess and see why. It’s not random

@arcana @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER becoming a billionaire is more or or less a series of events coinciding. Becoming wealthy is not so much

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER everything is a series of events coinciding. Billionaires are just millionaires who decided to keep going

@arcana @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER bullshit or there would be more than 000000,1% of them

@arcana @VIPPER @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach can probably add much more 0's there

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER the vast majority of millionaires don’t choose to continue on. Billionaires become that way by continuing to actively invest. The vast majority of millionaires don’t care for that and just have their wealth held in lower risk managed investments

It’s basically a form of retirement

@arcana @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER don't look like it's likely scenario
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@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER it’s genuinely a choice, the vast majority of millionaires don’t care to actively grow their assets to that level but they could if they tried. Money makes money. It’s not complicated. Billionaires are billionaires due to massive amounts of ownership and buying appreciating assets. Most millionaires don’t care to do all that and just stop at a certain point and put it into managed funds.

@arcana @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER millionaires love money. They want more of it. Of the 6.6 percent millionaires in US 3000 are billionaires in the entire world, 756 billionaires in US. seem very unlikely to become either a billionaire or millionaire in US. There are 8 billion people in world. Less than 0,66/10 chance of becoming millionaire in US. I doubt someone working at Walmart have any chance at all since I would estimate of the 6,6 percent millionaires in US 60% is probably inherited

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER you clearly don’t know many millionaires

@arcana @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER can you explain how someone working a normal blue collar job in US can become a millionaire coming from a lower middle class family when there are only 6,6 percent millionaires in US and probably the vast majority have inherited property etc. Less of 0,66/10 are millionaires. I think you are a little disconnected from reality to be honest

@arcana @VIPPER @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach seems highly correlated to who your parents and grandparents are and nothing more

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER we were talking about millionaires becoming billionaires.

Ultimately it’s a mindset thing. Most people do not have that mindset. As for a lower middle class person on a blue collar job. Firstly, quit your job, go to somewhere that has people in the industry you plan to disrupt or build a business, with the small amount of savings you have ensure to tidy yourself up and dress well, start networking. Speak to people whose skills complement your own and start formulating your plan based on one of your ideas. Never stop communicating and networking with people. Do favors for people, win them over with wit.

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER nope, not at all

@VIPPER @arcana @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach sure there are many millionaires in Norway because 1 million norwegian kroner is 93 000 us dollars

@arcana @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER this is crazy talk if you quit your job you can't pay mortage or bills and will end up on street. Something tells me you are rich

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER if you have a mortgage, that means you have a property you can sell.

People talk about how these billionaires benefitted from money when they were younger but much of the time these amounts are only the value of a basic house.

You don’t become a millionaire by working a job with a mortgage. Sell the house, and quit the job. There you go, you now have free time and the same amount of assets that a bunch of millionaires started out with.

@Diceynes @VIPPER @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach
>After graduating from high school, Jacklyn worked as a secretary, earning $190 a month, and left her parents' home to rent an apartment, living with Jeff. She worked at day and attended night school in the evenings, taking Jeff to the classes.[2]
>Jacklyn met Cuban refugee[2] Miguel Bezos at night school, later marrying him.[5] Miguel Bezos, with Jorgensen's support, adopted Jeff.[8] Jacklyn and Miguel Bezos relocated bringing Jeff with them and asked Jorgensen to discontinue contact, to which he agreed,[8] relinquishing custody.[9] The three moved to Houston, Texas.[5]
>Twenty years after starting, Jacklyn graduated from Saint Elizabeth College at the age of 40.[2]
>In 1995, Jacklyn and Miguel loaned Jeff US$245,573 to start Amazon.com,[11] giving them both 6% equity.[12] Later they relocated to Florida.[5]


>In 1994, Jeff held 60 meetings with family members, friends and prospective investors to get them to each invest around $50,000 apiece in Amazon and help him raise $1 million. Only 20 said yes, a group which included his parents.

This is genuinely just networking and the parents saving up money over the years. If you’ve got a house, you can get a couple of hundred k in start up capital.

@arcana @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER "Financial fragility: More than 1 in 3 workers (34%) say they are living paycheck to paycheck, defined as having little to no money left for savings after covering monthly expenses.2 days ago" this is genuinely reason to not choose a carrier in advising people financially. At least @mischievoustomato thinks you have good takes

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER if you want to stop living pay check to pay check, sell your assets and quit your job

@arcana @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER I don't have any problems financially doesn't mean I am completely disconnected from reality. This isn't very well thought out arguments or even realistic

@Diceynes @meso @mischievoustomato @scathach @VIPPER it’s what I did and what others did. You don’t have to do that, most people will just get by this way. It’s safe and it’s stable. If you want to know how to go from being a blue collar worker to a millionaire though that’s the way to do. You don’t make gains without risk