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all states should accept refugees without exception
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@georgia how do you determine who is a refugee? and how should states treat refugees if they are let in?
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@genmaicha I think a mix of assimilation and enrichment is good
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@georgia I don't think assimilation is always possible, and ethnicities are fundamentally different. it's good to show kindness to the less fortunate, but if a state is managed in such an idealistic way it will fall. it's similar to how communism appeals to our value of fairness but leads to nightmarish results in reality.
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@georgia @genmaicha damn i didnt think there were any neolibs under 50 left
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@genmaicha @georgia i do, and the world will enter an energetic crisis... two birds, stone, you know what i mean
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@genmaicha I'm closer to a lazy syndicalist than a communist but I believe in a degree of social welfare and humanitarianism. I dont believe ethnicities are "fundamentally different", at least not in ways that can't be reconciled.
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@RustyCrab @genmaicha I'm not a neoliberal neoliberals are capitalists and only care about "choice". I am an existentialist though which has a bit of overlap.
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@georgia i think it is about decency. supporting people who are less fortunate or have an issue is always important. we are in this together after all.
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@georgia cool they can come stay at your house
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@georgia Sure, as long as they're White refugees from South Africa.
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@georgia Let the states where an overwhelming majority of people support that take in refugees, and the ones where the majority don't support it not take any. Respect what people want and let them deal with the consequences of their decisions.

People who support taking in refugees should directly interact with them and contribute to their needs however. No champagne socialism.
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@ChristiJunior @georgia The only refuggees I will allow are White ones the rest will die in a camp
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@grillchen divine love (prema) is the highest virtue of all and benevolence/loving-kindness (maitri), active compassion (karuna), vicarious joy (mudita), and equal-mindedness (upeksha) all extend from it. cultivating all these is crucial on every viable spiritual path.
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@georgia And yet you're unemployed, and thus unable to contribute to mantain refugees, but still demand they are let in.
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@nerthos when I was employed I gave charitably, mostly to animals and freetard causes though
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@georgia Sorry about your mud monkey rapists.
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@georgia Huge difference between funding animal rescue and free software (No downsides whatsoever) and importing mystery meats that people have to live with.
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@georgia "Refugees Welcome" Shitlibs whenever you bring up ACTUAL victims of persecution, rather than Nigger leeches wanting Gibs and Muslim invaders looking to exploit the kindness of infidels.
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@nerthos @georgia Left-liberals are always very generous with other peoples' money.
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>Rich
She has never been within 3 miles of a farm in her life.
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@georgia I literally mention that I'm an Atheist in my profile description, dipshit,
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That's something niggers say.
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Titus 1:14-16 cunt.
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@Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior many farmers are incredibly wealthy. in south africa they had and I believe still have a very disproportionate share of land. in the US theyre supported with generous subsidies too.
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@ChristiJunior @georgia You can't reason with him and snacks are a item and he admitted to being a faggot and faggots are not victims they are predators so of course he wants grooming gangs the best solution is to silence a faggot voice forever because they have no rights the only right they have is a meeting with death we can arrange that
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@ChristiJunior @georgia everyone knows "refugee" means the same thing as "indigenous" despite seemingly being antithetical terms: brown.
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They don't have mountains of cash you dumb cunt. It's tied up in assets and one bad season can absolutely ruin them. Many of them have barely enough income to make it purely because of Government price fixing. But you're a some bougie silver spoon bitch so you have no idea.

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I'm wracking my brain trying to remember when (if ever) shitlibs cared about verifying someone's refugee status. If a nigger shows up at your border claiming to be a refugee, you have to just let him in and give him EBT. He's a nigger, so surely he's fleeing from something horrible.
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@Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior I havent read titus or much of the Pauline epistles but ive recently read the gospels, acts, the johanine literature, and james. I ask you, is whatever quotation you cite more important than "love one another as I have loved you?"

john 13:34-35
"A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another."
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fuwadance Goal𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝓮𝓻 mocodance

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Yes, other devout poious Christians and people of Good Character. But of course you take it out of context to mean 75 IQ murderous niggers.

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How about you get deported to Nigera?
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@Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior the commandment is love as Christ loved. if you think Christ only loved people who werent sinners youre reading a different bible.
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@theshortbus @georgia >I'm wracking my brain trying to remember when (if ever) shitlibs cared about verifying someone's refugee status.

When Trump brought in White South African refugees - they suddenly all became extremely strict and distrustful at that point.
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@georgia
"sorry about your rich white farmers"

You niggers can't build hypersonic weapons. And your jewish protectors will be killed by cheap AI-guided drones.

@ChristiJunior

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>disproportionate share of land
That "land" fed a disproportionate number of non-farmers. Without farmers and jewish NGOs, Africans would quickly return to their natural state (which is starving to death).
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@georgia@netzsphaere.xyz you should be sentenced to Southside Chicago for your transgressions against high trust society
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@georgia How many refugees have you let into your house?
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@ChristiJunior @theshortbus I think refugee status should be verified unless its incredibly obvious. I dont believe in open borders unless its something the majority wants.
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@georgia Well if a person sends you lewds I count it as such because your a faggot so to answer your question faggot since snacks sends you lewds I will assume you are togetheir

RE: https://netzsphaere.xyz/objects/33be3374-840c-4b5c-a0bb-ddb59f624893
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Loving someone !== enabling their actions. Christ was not a hippie.
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@The_Vampire_Brigade he doesnt send me Leeds he posts lewds on his account. by "gay" I meant that I like women
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Also he condemned nonbelievers, REPEATEDLY.

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@georgia @genmaicha

“I dont believe ethnicities are “fundamentally different”, at least not in ways that can’t be reconciled.”

A Lysenkoist Creationist.

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@matty @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper this is true but hes delusional by thinking christ only loved people who loved him (were good christians). hateful christians (a religion about Gods love for all mankind) are just as christian as atheist communists.
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Niggas seem to enjoy ignoring the fact that the Lord is a Man of war, and He is perfectly loving and perfectly wrathful at the same time.
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Titus 1:15

15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and UNBELIEVING is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

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All states should accept killing "refugees", without exception.
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Christ does not love everyone. And Christianity is about God's love of mankind as much as it is His repudiation of man's ways. Were it not for our stupidity, we'd never have fallen away, and we'd never have had to *be* saved in the first place.
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@Goalkeeper

A lot airport approaches are low enough that that’s not true

@ChristiJunior @georgia
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@georgia That's heterosexuality not faggotry someone is very retarded
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In think some people falsely think loves means letting someone do whatever they want. It's why they think their parents didn't love them.
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I never read the thread. I'm in a don't scroll up mood. Nice to see you Hump.
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@georgia @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper
The commandment given at the Last Supper is to love other true Christians as Christ loved us true believers through His suffering, death, and sacrifice on the Cross.

He has already made known what He thinks of the reprobate:
"For forty years I loathed that generation
and said, 'They are a people who go astray in their heart,
and they have not known my ways.'
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'They shall not enter my rest [i.e. most of the Israelites that originally left Egypt went to Hell].'" (Psalm 95:10-11)
"But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me." (Luke 19:27)
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America must accept turning non-White refugees into biodiesel. ❤️
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Thanks for the citation edit.

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love is patience and kind. Not greedy or demanding. that is selfishness.
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@Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior @matty jesus ate and forgave criminals and publicans. jesus said that you should love like he loves. you harp on a single insignificant quotation to argue that paul, who is not divine, who was engaging in a manner of polemic, would say that unbelievers are not worthy of your love.

here's a paul quote I just found.

"And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity." Corinthians 13:13.

do you know what charity meant? it doesnt mean "giving money to the poor". it means "love". the original word is agape, which is the greek word for divine love. if you look at any concordance agape is the same love that God showed for humanity by dying on the cross. paul literally says that the commandment to (divinely) love one another is more important than faith here. https://biblehub.com/greek/26.htm

"Rather, it denotes a holy, self‐giving disposition that originates in God, is displayed perfectly in Jesus Christ, and is implanted in believers by the Holy Spirit. The frequency of the term in the writings of John and Paul underscores its centrality to apostolic theology and ethics."
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fuwadance Goal𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝓮𝓻 mocodance

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Yes, to people that sincerely repent and accept Christ in their hearts. Stop twisting the Lord's words and repent.

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> Love is waiting and doing nothing. It's pure inaction.

Wrong. You could beat the fuck out of someone who did something wrong and the motivation can be love.
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Also love, especially Christian love, does not mean “uncritically let everyone into your house and let them have their way with your wife”
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@Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior @matty if God only loved people who repented or if He only loved Christians He would not be all-loving. God showers grace on the virtuous and the sinners alike, and Jesus advises christians to be like God in that regard.

"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.  For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." Matthew 5:44-48

do you know what Jesus says of people who break his commandments given in his sermon? he says "they will be called least in the kingdom of heaven".
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Love is willing the good of another.
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Exactly. And the means aren't necessarily limited. It's a dance, not a list of rules.
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This Love
Show content
First song that came to mind.
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most progressive liberals are absolutely numb to the hardships of regular people, if not openly malicious to them, because like their conservative liberal counterparts, they pretend to be radicals for the aesthetics online but lack solidarity of any kind and default to largely normie positions on everything

they're largely unaffected for now and their sheltered thinking reflects that, they have too much to lose from the status quo ending, and that more than anything is what makes them a liberal at this point in time, they think the concept of interdependence does not have to apply to them and that tomorrow will be like yesterday was

putting their relative comfort aside, whatever they might tell you, and however they posture, they are ultimately loyal to zog and it's jingoistic police state, they consent and they are complicit, doing so because it would hurt their pride too much to admit that they are under illegitimate duress, or are otherwise mkultra brainraped into compliance

they would rather have you slave away for the rest of your life for the sake of a sociopathic bum who should be made into biodiesel or a serial rapist from honduras than break lockstep with international corporations and banking cartels to actually make things better, or even express a desire to do so, or even entertain the idea that it's possible
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Why do I have a sudden urge to play doom?
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>jesus ate and forgave criminals and publicans...

zombie jesus heresy...
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I'm gonna go back to The Prisoner series that was recommended here. I'm almost near the end it is a great series and free on Prime BTW
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>Let's fuck with the people who grow our food.
We're going to barbecue you like the hatians, dog.
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They never tell you he forgave those who accepted the salvation he offered and condemned those who cursed him. YOU HAVE TO LOVE EVERYONE.

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but do we have to eat the sinner...
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That the one with the weird practical effects for the "drones" and whatnot? [beach balls and other inflatable what nots]
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Go re-read 1 Timothy 2:11-12 real quick.
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@Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior @matty @Frondeur he literally forgave the people who crucified Him, except Judas
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Yeah, and “criminal brute coming to our lands for free stuff” isn’t what “refugee” means either
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Oh so not everyone. Pilpul harder.

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Just say osti and be done with it
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Who's the 80's glam rocker? 😂
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@georgia @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty
Quick question: did God (who includes Christ a God the Son) ever withhold rain from anyone and did God (who includes Christ a God the Son) ever give too much rain to anyone?
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@Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior @matty @Frondeur I never said Jesus forgave everyone I said He loved everyone, which one of you said was wrong lmao.
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Yes, it is actually a precise show on the state of affairs we are all living in.
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Get you fucking kike Pilpul out of here you disingenuous cunt.

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i forgot or never knew what osti means...
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@SuperSnekFriend @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty youre really desperate for an excuse to disregard Gods commandments
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I'll go grab some copies somewhere, I stopped paying for amazon a while ago.
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@Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior @matty @Frondeur I havent been cruel to you but you have been cruel to me. who acts like a better Christian?
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It's French Canadian for soda, not to be confused with pop
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i mean youre obviously rage baiting people...
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You are a misguided fool who twists the gospel to paint with the broadest brush possible and are therefore a deceiver.

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you should be deported to somalia, they need the help of compassionate people like yourself
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colloquially it means "damnit" in my understanding but literally it is "l'hostie" in french or communion wafer in english. you frogs love using holy language as curses
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Why are they refugees and why must we take them?
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@SuperSnekFriend @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty youre engaged in sophistry for an evil purpose (to not obey Jesus). my answer is: "your father is perfect, therefore be like your father who is perfect".
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Nice projection.

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you should accept them into your home
no exceptions
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Sir...I am a native Texan and a loyal subject of his majesty King Felipe Juan Pablo Alfonso de Todos los Santos de Borbón y Grecia...
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The pop/soda debate is second to chili with or without beans.
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@georgia @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty
The perfection of God and His demand for us to be perfect like Him is not what I asked about.

Final chance, answer the question.
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>Jesus ate ... criminals
Actually true. He still does.
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@verita84 @Goalkeeper @matty @Frondeur @ChristiJunior God can forgive everyone, who are you to say who should and shouldnt be forgiven? He is infinitely merciful. I'm not the one supporting unbiblical dogma, you are.
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My ex would flip out about chili with beans the way people flip out about pineapple on pizza
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I'm quoting who he said will be forgiven and who won't. Answer Snek's question already.

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just order the beans on the side...eyeroll
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@SuperSnekFriend @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty God never errs. even what seems like an error to mankind is perfect. I answered your question.
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@georgia Women on this side of the internet their is no women on this side of the internet mate what have you been smoking

RE: https://netzsphaere.xyz/objects/850080df-b4af-4234-9618-a67a446aaed2
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@Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior @matty @SuperSnekFriend I'm not projecting at all, anyone who reads this conversation impartially can see that I have conducted myself better than you.
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You spat upon Christian farmers in favor of their attackers.

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She was too crazy, even for me. Not even joking a few times I was afraid she'd stab me in my throat in my sleep.
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I'm from the Midwest so just assumed beans were supposed to be in Chili. 4 years in Texas taught me different. Addition by subtracting. Hint hint America!
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@georgia @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty
Like Christ to the Pharisees in Matthew 21, I will say no more and leave you in your arrogant ignorance.

Turn from the ooey-gooey, yippie-hippie, lovey-dovey Enlightenment and liberal "Christ" of your own making, repent, and turn to the real Jesus Christ, who will not spare the unrepentant sinner on Judgement Day.
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This is like hearing Goebbels say "whoa, cool it with the anti-semitism you hothead."
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> the commandment is love as Christ loved. if you think Christ only loved people who werent sinners youre reading a different bible.

Yes, the word in question is agapate a form of agape, the love God has for us. And Christ is God.

But God's "love" drowned the world, destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, and killed all but one family in Jericho. It allowed the Israelis of the southern kingdom to be dragged off to Babylon in chains and the temple to be destroyed when they abandoned him for other gods. And when he sent his son to guide them back to worshiping him properly and they killed him he allowed the second temple to be destroyed, Jerusalem to be leveled, most of the jews in Judah killed and the remainder scattered to the four winds.

I'm not sure his definition of "love" matches yours.
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*wagging finger* "whoa whoa whoa slow your roll, white man"
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@SuperSnekFriend @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty its funny how you compare yourself to jesus yet you mock the real jesus as "lovey-dovey".
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Chili without beans is just meat soup. I've always had chili with beans so it was quite a shock when she started screaming and crying.
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I love sinners like God loved the sinners of Sodom and Gomorrah.
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Like I said, dividing
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@georgia If you like them so much you can join them in their countries, or the bottom of a bog.
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The only place where “chili” by itself implies beans, is on a chili dog. Otherwise it’s beef cooked with chili powder.

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I can eat both. I used to take the beans out of chili as a kid.
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White Men should NEVER "slow their roll"!
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May God have mercy on your soul for I will not.
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I agree...Texas should secede...
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> do you know what charity meant? it doesnt mean "giving money to the poor". it means "love".

No. It meant charity. Charity and love in modern terms are two different things and the translation of agape as charity is, imo, a much better translation than love.

Charity means to want the other person to have what is best for them. In our case that means giving of whatever excess we have to meet the other person's needs. In God's case it means he wants us to have the opportunity to spend eternity with him, as he originally created us to do before the fall separated us from him. That's why Christ died on the cross, to pay the penalty for us we couldn't pay ourselves, so we could be reunited with God.
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You made me remember when my babysitter used to make chili dogs in the 90s just in time for the sonic cartoon.
She'd make a big deal about the Batman TAS being too dark for children, but it's clearly Sonic that did more damage to my generation.
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I will say that I’m going to pray the lord saves him, and then get distracted by something or other and forget
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There's this thing in the Upper Midwest called Booyah that is basically soup. I hate it. It is watered down chili and basically soup. Gross.
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Two more weeks, Texas will secede.

Add it to the list.
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It’s a service I provide 🥂

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some people would claim beans are just a filler
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i voted for trump so texas would be freed...
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I can accept a pretty wide range of chili, but there is a point where the bean/meat ratio is suspect and I'm like "this isn't chili, this is bean soup"
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> do you know what Jesus says of people who break his commandments given in his sermon?

The sermon on the mount wasn't intended as a set of commandments. It was a long exposition of what complying with the law requires of a person. And thus an explanation of why we could never do so and needed Christ's intervention for our salvation.

> he says "they will be called least in the kingdom of heaven".

I have absolutely no problem with actually being the least in heaven, not just called such, as long as I and my loved ones are there.
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@georgia @genmaicha browns are literally lower IQ, that's pretty "fundamentally different" imo, blacks still can't assimilate and its been like idk, hundreds of years with handouts?
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God exploded a shit ton of gay nigger retards a few times in the bible.
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I voted for Trump originally because of his excellent performance against Jeb! in 2016 and I hate the Clinton crime family.
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You've given me an idea for a new pizza toppings.
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> he literally forgave the people who crucified Him

Yes, he forgave the Romans who crucified him "...for they know not what they do." Did he forgive the Pharisees who were responsible and did know what they were doing?
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Never saw it. What was dark?
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Balkanization is still on the table. God Bless Texas!
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Oh man, Batman TAS was surprisingly high-quality for the first few dozen episodes

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That's what happens when the meat production companies are based from Brazil.
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@BasedLord @ChristiJunior @georgia @Goalkeeper Lord, I see what You have done for other people and I want You to do that for me

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@James_Dixon @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper Jesus isnt just the same as YHVH, YHVH is Jesus. people reap the punishment of their own misdeeds, but never does that mean God does not love them or does not want them to eventually return to Him. God said to love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, yet you hate your enemies. you know what He also said?

"And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me."
Matthew 25:40-45

All of you are saying "I will not take the stranger in". you condemn the Jews for what they did to Christ their brother but when you do not help the least among you, you do the same to Jesus.

perhaps even worse, some among you, admitted atheists and bound for a terrible afterlife, say "I will take the stranger in solely if he is white". you know what Jesus said? He said your neighbor, who you should love as yourself, is more a samaritan (who had enmity with the jews) than a jewish priest as long as he shows you compassion. and paul said there is neither Jew nor Greek, for all are one in Christ Jesus.

plainly stated the jews of jesuss time were xenophobes, but jesus was not xenophobic. he loved the stranger. do you?
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I definitely watched that, it was outstanding. I never watched Sonic (didn't like the game).
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@James_Dixon @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty @Frondeur he didnt just forgive the romans lol. he said "them", meaning the whole multitude.
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> The commandment given at the Last Supper is to love other true Christians as Christ loved us true believers through His suffering, death, and sacrifice on the Cross.

Correct. That commandment was given to his disciples and concerned them and their brothers and sisters in Christ. It was not a generic commandment to love everyone.
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I definitely preferred the series before it became Batman and Robin; but it was still decent, and much better than anything I can think of that’s still being made in the genre

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>beef cooked with chili powder 😐

please see my pinned poast for how to make chili.

tl;dr no chili powder
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>didn't like the game...

what's wrong...too fast for you???
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No you’re not wrong; it’s just the bare minimum of what could qualify. One can throw a lb of burger and a couple tbsps of chili powder in a pan and fry it up, and rightly call it “chili” - even if it’s not the best sort of chili and could vastly be improved.

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that must be why he destroyed Jerusalem...because of all the forgiveness...
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@James_Dixon @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 5:19. being a christian isnt just about believing jesus died for you, its about following what jesus, perfect God and perfect man, said to do.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UYAnkdhe9KE
Mainly the themes, a lot of stories about loss, and some of the deaths were brutal like Sandman's.
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ok, I will conseed to this true, but dangerously close to heretical, summation.
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I saw what I meant in my mind but I could have been clearer 😆

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Too much CRUSHING DESPAIR every time I lost all of those fucking rings. Still better than Mario Bros, tho.
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Use seasonings you like. Remember that candy that was powdered sugar? Just lick your fingers and test in different bowls or glasses. You might get the strength wrong the first time but it's basically chemistry/magic. Make sure you you have something to drink to clear your palate.
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what's that fancy yankee talk mean???
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Weird to know Chris-chan was getting radicalized at the same time I was watching that show.
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no-one cares what you think about Christ. You are an evil monster, skin suitting Christianity.
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Oh, I do use a few powdered seasonings...took me years to find the right mix for me, but the chilies are dried whole chilies that are reconstituted and then pureed with said seasonings. It is very tasty.
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bounces off me, sticks to you.

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I mean, you're right, you should use fresh, but chili powder is simply a cheat to get there
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My earliest settler ancestor by marrage to USA was 1870ish. You are are all Yankees to me!
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> Jesus isnt just the same as YHVH, YHVH is Jesus.

I'm an American, I don't speak Hebrew. The English word is Jehovah.

> God said to love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

He said that was what the law required of us. He knew we couldn't do it.

> yet you hate your enemies.

On those rare occasion where I do it's a sin which can be forgiven.

> All of you are saying "I will not take the stranger in".

I will give the stranger of my excess in the manner I judge best when my own are taken care of, as 1 Timothy 5:8 says I should:

"But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel."

My home and land are not excess.

> you condemn the Jews for what they did to Christ their brother but when you do not help the least among you, you do the same to Jesus.

I'm perfectly willing to provide charity to the "least among us". But foreign invaders are not "among us". And they can receive my charity in the own lands.

> you know what Jesus said? He said your neighbor, who you should love as yourself, is more a samaritan (who had enmity with the jews) than a jewish priest as long as he shows you compassion.

And you deliberately misconstrue the clear meaning of the text.

> and paul said there is neither Jew nor Greek, for all are one in Christ Jesus.

He also said there is neither male nor female in Christ, so I guess all the Christians died out in the first century, huh? Again, you misstate the clear meaning of the text.

> he loved the stranger. do you?

I'm willing to give of my excess to the stranger, just as the good Samaritan did. I'm not willing to take him into my home or homeland. That doesn't give him what's best for him.
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i got here last week and i'm whiter than you #hyperboreanrefugee
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Tbf# I was in in Houston. Not very Texas like El Paso and Austin
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thsts poast war of northern aggression... an invalid claim of a carpetbagger.

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Damn! How's things going about realizing Atlantis didn't work out?
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I've been called a carpetbagger before. October 2001, Houston. Had to settle for doing pizza jobs instead of logistics and warehouse work because I was from Illinois and didn't fit in.
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This is one of the reasons I hate seafood!
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> being a christian isnt just about believing jesus died for you, its about following what jesus, perfect God and perfect man, said to do.

Shouldn't that be Christian and Jesus?

Which is, let's see (remembering that love is agape, which is better translated as charity):

Love God, accept him as the only begotten Son of God, love your neighbor (one who acts toward you as the good Samaritan did), love your brothers and sisters in Christ, don't deny him before men, don't blasphemy the Holy Ghost, "teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost", and "this do in remembrance of me."

I think that pretty well covers his explicit commandments. I could be forgetting something. As I said, the sermon on the mount wasn't intended as commandments.
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> he didnt just forgive the romans lol. he said "them", meaning the whole multitude.

No. He was explicit. "...for they know not what they do." The Pharisees knew exactly what they were doing. Saying otherwise is a lie.
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Shut your face, shitheel. LOL!
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@georgia 👈🏻This nigger
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Recite the Nicene Creed, heretic. You can copy and paste it.
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Was thinking of Sonic the other day as I'm playing Tales of Graces F and when I was about to give it a mulligan on some of the soundtrack "songs" (some of which are only two notes) due to it's age I recalled Sonic's Chemical Plant theme which was released 15 years before that Tales game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LYB7iLZNWE
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That's a gay opinion. I think we should expel all brown people into a volcano.
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@James_Dixon @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper

>The English word is Jehovah.

Jehovah wasnt how the name is pronounced though. YHVH is a direct latinization of the ineffable name. we dont know the vowels.

>He said that was what the law required of us. He knew we couldn't do it.

the sermon on the mount wasnt a mere expounding of the existing law, it was a summation of jesus's teachings which radically reformed the law. jesus never spoke empty words, when you say of all his moral precepts "he knew we couldnt follow his words" you are saying his teachings were meant for an audience of no one. this is a protestant invention, that jesus is solely meant to be "believed" and not meant to be actually followed. love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you means exactly that.

>I will give the stranger of my excess in the manner I judge best when my own are taken care of, as 1 Timothy 5:8 says I should:
"But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel."

first off, these are the words of paul, not jesus, jesus said to take the stranger in and this doesnt abrogate jesus. paul is just saying you are first responsible for your own, which was historically interpreted not in the manner of a nuclear family home, but to mean your distant relations and friends as well, provided they were believers.

https://biblehub.com/commentaries/1_timothy/5-8.htm

"The words "his own," refer to those who are naturally dependent on him, whether living in his own immediate family or not. There may be many distant relatives naturally dependent on our aid, besides those who live in our own house"

"The circle of those for whose support and sustenance a Christian was responsible is here enlarged: not merely is the fairly prosperous man who professes to love Christ, bound to do his best for his nearest relations, such as his mother and grandmother, but St. Paul says 'he must assist those of his own house,' in which term relatives who are much more distant are included, and even dependents connected with the family who had fallen into poverty and distress."

theres nothing objectionable about this, its your interpretation of it which abrogates christ which is objectionable:

>My home and land are not excess.

you are interpreting your entire country as the same as your own household, which is an error. God in the old testament told the israelites to welcome strangers. “the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.” Leviticus 19:34
https://biblehub.com/commentaries/leviticus/19-34.htm I would read the entire commentary on this verse if I were you.

jesus's words were similarly clear: take in the stranger. that means into your own home if necessary, and when I have my own home I will take in strangers if I have the room. I promise you this.

>I'm perfectly willing to provide charity to the "least among us". But foreign invaders are not "among us". And they can receive my charity in the own lands.

immigrants aren't invaders, this is dehumanizing language. most immigration violation in the US is overstaying a legal welcome. the meaning of the stranger among you hasnt changed since Leviticus. do you give charity to the needy in other countries? I have.

>He also said there is neither male nor female in Christ, so I guess all the Christians died out in the first century, huh?

this is a sophistic imitation of reductio ad absurdum. paul meant that jewish and greek believers were equal, equal in Gods promise and equal in the church, so its only logical that you should also treat Jew and Greek alike in friendship, and likewise you yourself should not have preferences for Jew or Greek, for Israelite and stranger, for authorized and unauthorized immigrant, provided the person has shown you no unfriendliness.

>I'm willing to give of my excess to the stranger, just as the good Samaritan did. I'm not willing to take him into my home or homeland. That doesn't give him what's best for him.

giving in excess is good, not taking refugees into your "homeland" is unbiblical. its your opinion that its not what's best for him, its Gods opinion that the needy ought to be provided for when they entreat you.
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@alpha60 God is love, you should try to be more like Him
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> Jehovah wasnt how the name is pronounced though. YHVH is a direct latinization of the ineffable name. we dont know the vowels.

Exactly, we have no idea how it was pronounced. And as I said, I don't speak Hebrew. The English word is Jehovah.

> when you say of all his moral precepts "he knew we couldnt follow his words" you are saying his teachings were meant for an audience of no one.

If you're going to lie about what I'm saying this is going to be short conversation.

> first off, these are the words of paul, not jesus

2 Timothy 3:16
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

> paul is just saying you are first responsible for your own, which was historically interpreted not in the manner of a nuclear family home, but to mean your distant relations and friends as well, provided they were believers.

Which is exactly what I said.

> its your interpretation of it which abrogates christ which is objectionable:

Again with the christ. My interpretation of it is correct.

> you are interpreting your entire country as the same as your own household, which is an error.

You just said the verse didn't refer to only my own household but to my extended kin. Thus, not in error.

> I would read the entire commentary on this verse if I were you.

Yes, you would.

> jesus's words were similarly clear: take in the stranger. that means into your own home if necessary, and when I have my own home I will take in strangers if I have the room. I promise you this.

Except he never says that.

> immigrants aren't invaders,

Yes, they are. This has been undeniably demonstrated over the past 60 years.

> this is dehumanizing language.

Too fucking bad.

> do you give charity to the needy in other countries? I have.

I've never had enough for more than my own kin.

> this is a sophistic imitation of reductio ad absurdum.

Which is perfectly appropriate because your usage of the incomplete verse is absurd.

> paul meant that jewish and greek believers were equal, equal in Gods promise and equal in the church,

Which is not what you're saying as you proceed to demonstrate.

> and likewise you yourself should not have preferences for Jew or Greek, for Israelite and stranger, for authorized and unauthorized immigrant, provided the person has shown you no unfriendliness.

See what I mean.

> giving in excess is good, not taking refugees into your "homeland" is ?unbiblical.

And again you lie.

> its Gods opinion that the needy ought to be provided for when they entreat you.

The needy you're talking about are lying thieves. God opines accordingly.
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@James_Dixon @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty @Frondeur just want to say that I appreciate you engaging with me in a serious manner instead of being actively cruel and just calling me a jew or saying refugees should be murdered. I dont believe this interpretation though, that the jews (besides Judas and others who knew jesus personally) all knew exactly what they were doing and that jesus only referred to the romans. they didnt believe that jesus was God, if they knew He was God they likely wouldnt have been involved in his death. many of the romans were doing what they thought was right and snuffing out the movement of a man who many thought was a dissident king, and many of the jews were doing what they thought was right and snuffing out what they thought was a man who committing a grave sin by claiming to be I AM, God. in the bible unintentional sins are treated much more leniently than intentional sins, and jesus saying "forgive them father" is an extension of that. of course, for judas, he was not only betraying a friend, but committing to death the man who he knew to be God himself, holy and perfectly sinless.
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@James_Dixon @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper disagree with most of this but I'll make this quicker, this boils down to your last point that immigrants are "lying thieves". obviously lying thieves shouldnt be given much, so you dont believe in charitable attitudes towards them. but youre wrong, most immigrants are peaceful and just want to provide for their house, just like you.
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@georgia @ChristiJunior @James_Dixon most immigrants come to the USA now to sponge off our system like blood sucking parasites, which is evident by the fact that the majority of them are on welfare
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@georgia @ChristiJunior @James_Dixon also these are old numbers. it's actually way higher now after the biden admin.
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@georgia @alpha60
Weak sauce my friend. You're either a new Christian or from some feminized demonination. It does not say, "God is only love, no judgment, only mercy, no wrath, only grace, no justice" anywhere in the Bible. Yawhew, the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob, is more than just Love. Loving someone doesn't mean we let them into our home and eat the food off our table so our own children starve.

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@meowski @ChristiJunior @James_Dixon yes, you were told that using the approach of households instead of individuals is misleading.
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@meowski @ChristiJunior @James_Dixon my source is quite new and its from a libertarian think tank lmao
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> just want to say that I appreciate you engaging with me in a serious manner instead of being actively cruel and just calling me a jew

Give me time.

> or saying refugees should be murdered.

You are aware that the only "refugees" we should accept are from Mexico and Canada, are you not? That's the international definition of who countries should accept as refugees. The last I saw neither Mexico nor Canada were overflowing with people who had to flee for their lives.

All others have the option of leaving peaceably or, yes, they can be shot.

> I dont believe this interpretation though, that the jews (besides Judas and others who knew jesus personally) all knew exactly what they were doing and that jesus only referred to the romans.

I don't care what you believe. You've already demonstrated your interpretation of Scripture is not to be trusted.

> they didnt believe that jesus was God,

They had no excuse for not believing, especially after he himself told them he was (before Abraham was, I am). They knew exactly what he meant.

> if they knew He was God they likely wouldnt have been involved in his death.

And if they knew but refused to believe they would have done exactly what they did.

> many of the romans were doing what they thought was right

The Roman soldiers were following lawful orders. Pilate was doing what he thought was right and avoiding a revolt that would have killed hundreds or thousands of jews and possibly dozens of Roman soldiers.

Which is why Christ forgave them.

> and snuffing out the movement of a man who many thought was a dissident king,

Pilate knew better. But he didn't want a revolt on his hands, see above.

> This is f and many of the jews were doing what they thought was right and snuffing out what they thought was a man who committing a grave sin by claiming to be I AM, God.

In spite of his meeting every single one of the biblical requirements for meeting that claim. Requirements they knew and knew he had met. They knew. They refused to believe anyway.

> in the bible unintentional sins are treated much more leniently than intentional sins, and jesus saying "forgive them father" is an extension of that. of course, for judas,

His crucifixion was not "unintentional". They carefully planned it out and had the Romans do it because the feared the populace if they killed him themselves.

> he was not only betraying a friend, but committing to death the man who he knew to be God himself, holy and perfectly sinless.

The same arguments you make for the Pharisees could also apply to him. They knew as much as he did. Yet he was not forgiven.

Whether he would have been if he had repented and asked is another matter.
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@georgia @ChristiJunior @James_Dixon it's not though. families get more benefits based on numbr of children and they all share that money
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@fkq1q2r2 @alpha60 I dont want anyone to starve thats kinda my whole point. and I believe that that God exhibits both perfect justice and perfect mercy.
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@georgia @ChristiJunior @James_Dixon look at the billions of dollars of somali day care and hospice fraud in minnesota and california. the numbers are staggering. illegals getting hotels in new york. there's no way to even calculate how much higher it is than these reports which do show that a majority of immigrant *houseolds* receive ONE OR MORE forms of welfare benefits
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> most immigrants are peaceful and just want to provide for their house, just like you.

This has been conclusively demonstrated to be a lie.
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>it's pic related: the thread
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@georgia @genmaicha > I think a mix of assimilation and enrichment is good
The only thing they should enrich is compost.
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@georgia @alpha60
Is God wrong if someone starves to death then?
I know the Earth will produce food and resources until the end of days, but there will never be unlimited resources available at any one point in time. That means some will have more and some less, for the poor will be with us until the end of days. You should make the choice with your resources to give to those that have less, and God loves a cheerful giver. Giving at gunpoint defeats that.

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@Ree You're a she/they so are rejecting God. Hopefully, you find your way to Him.
@georgia @alpha60

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@georgia @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @James_Dixon

> giving in excess is good, not taking refugees into your "homeland" is unbiblical.

This is inaccurate. The Bible has quite a few examples when this was not the case and God described this sort of behavior as a result of bad fruit, disobedience, etc. Deuteronomy specifically listed foreigners coming into your land en-masse as a curse for disobedience.

Most modern Christians get this wrong because they read every command as universal and without context.
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@fkq1q2r2 @georgia @alpha60 why should i support a religion that it's followers are bigoted.
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@Ree @georgia @alpha60
Looool. Even demons believe and tremble before God and know the Bible. Can't be said for you. God says that gays shouldn't be tolerated, nor those who worship other gods.
Loving someone doesn't mean enabling, but it probably does for you.

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@fkq1q2r2 @georgia @alpha60 see "gays are going to hell". i'll be honest i don't give a fuck. i bet hell is fun
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@James_Dixon @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty @Frondeur I'll not address your initial threat to me with more than this, but I must direct you to acts 3:17 "Yet now, brethren, I know that you did it in ignorance, as did also your rulers". jesus forgave the jews, except obviously judas, who certainly resides in hellfire.

your statement that the romans were uniquely ignorant and thus blameless is unrealistic. you know pilate was said in luke to have mixed the blood of murdered jews with their animal sacrifices right? all contemporary sources about him show he was a very evil man. you are interpreting the romans as upright but thats just not true. they were a powerful empire, they were not likely browbeat into executing anyone. the roman guards humiliated and beat jesus, the soldiers divided his clothes. pilate is only made partly sympathetic in the bible to appeal to the new roman converts according to nearly all historians, and I'm interested in what happened to the actual jesus, a man who lived, died, and was ressurected.

as far as the guilt of the pharisees goes, most jews werent lawmakers and scribes, but were lay-believers.

here's more reading for you:

https://biblehub.com/q/Why_did_Jesus_forgive_His_crucifiers_2.htm
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@gucciloafers @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty @Frondeur @James_Dixon except I love jesus and have nothing but respect for people who follow him
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> I'll not address your initial threat to me

You have a strange view of what constitutes a threat.

> jesus forgave the jews, except obviously judas, who certainly resides in hellfire.

But Judas was no more guilty than the Pharisees who paid him, which is one of two reasons I don't accept that as the case. The other being what Jesus told Pilate in John 19:11.

> your statement that the romans were uniquely ignorant and thus blameless is unrealistic.

My statement is that they had no idea Jesus was the Son of God. They didn't even believe in his Father.

> you know pilate was said in luke to have mixed the blood of murdered jews with their animal sacrifices right? all contemporary sources about him show he was a very evil man.

You are judging evil by modern standards. He was a man of his time and a pagan.

> you are interpreting the romans as upright but thats just not true. they were a powerful empire, they were not likely browbeat into executing anyone.

At the very least Pilate would have been removed from his post if he had allowed an uprising he could have easily prevented. At worst he would have been responsible for the deaths of dozen or hundreds of Roman soldiers and possibly executed. In either case he would have failed in his duty to Caesar. It was an easy decision for him to make.

> the roman guards humiliated and beat jesus,

The were ordered to scourge him. What do you think that involves, exactly?

> the soldiers divided his clothes.

As was their right under Roman law.

> pilate is only made partly sympathetic in the bible to appeal to the new roman converts according to nearly all historians,

The Gospel wasn't written to appeal to new Roman converts. That was Paul's job. And Pilate doesn't come across as sympathetic unless you understand his role as a Roman and what it involved. In which case he is more to be pitied than sympathized with. He was trapped by circumstances far beyond his control. That's why Christ didn't blame him.

> as far as the guilt of the pharisees goes, most jews werent lawmakers and scribes, but were lay-believers.

Most jews accepted Christ after the resurrection. The Pharisees and their ilk didn't.
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@James_Dixon @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty @Frondeur

>But Judas was no more guilty than the Pharisees who paid him, which is one of two reasons I don't accept that as the case. The other being what Jesus told Pilate in John 19:11.

I mean, youre disregarding what peter said in acts, he said that the Israelite leaders were also ignorant. I dont believe that the chief priests (who weren't pharisees but were probably saducees, I could be wrong though) who paid judas were quite as guilty as he, and i dont think many commentators would argue this, judas was unique in his degree of guilt and of sin, though they were certainly guilty also. judas intimately knew jesus and was treated with divine love by him. he had no excuses.

>My statement is that they had no idea Jesus was the Son of God.

neither did the sanhedrin. jesus more or less told him he was in the synoptics, but they didnt believe and they werent in the intimate position judas was in to know this. I still think this constitutes ignorance.

>You are judging evil by modern standards. He was a man of his time and a pagan.

murdering worshippers of God and mixing the blood of sacrifices with their blood is evil, period. its strange of a christian to be morally relativist here.

>Most jews accepted Christ after the resurrection. The Pharisees and their ilk didn't.

many many hellenized jews converted to christianity, actually, including many pharisees.
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> I mean, youre disregarding what peter said in acts, he said that the Israelite leaders were also ignorant.

I believe he meant willfully ignorant.

> I dont believe that the chief priests (who weren't pharisees but were probably saducees, I could be wrong though) who paid judas were quite as guilty as he,

It was almost certainly a mixture of both. So you're arguing that someone who pays for murder isn't as guilty of murder as the person who performs it? Good luck making that argument in court, much less before God.

> judas was unique in his degree of guilt and of sin, though they were certainly guilty also. judas intimately knew jesus and was treated with divine love by him. he had no excuses.

The Pharisees and Sadducees knew everything about Jesus he did. The fact they hadn't seen it all in person was no excuse. There were plenty of witnesses for them to talk to.

> neither did the sanhedrin.

The Sanhedrin had no excuse for not knowing. The details of how the Messiah would be recognized were quite well known to them. Christ met all the requirements and prophecies.

> I still think this constitutes ignorance.

I don't. It was blindness, yes, but it was willful blindness. And the could have changed their minds after the resurrection. They mostly didn't.

> many many hellenized jews converted to christianity, actually, including many pharisees.

Quite a few accepted him even before the crucifixion and resurrection, Nicodemus for instance. They were understandably somewhat reticent about the matter.
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You must have never been beaten or slapped as a child. Did your parents even love you? Do you have parents?
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too bad there seems to be no refuge from retarded women
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Now post 10 public teachers getting sucked off and proclaiming "Legalise it"
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Fuck your bulbheads, cunt
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Well don't bring up child abuse if you're not serious about it.
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@randbot @georgia @alpha60 it's a political cartoon get a grip. We know some priests are gay pedophiles
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And we know 10 more times public teachers are as well.
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Priests and teachers offend at similar rates when you adjust for population. It's certainly not 10x
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Follow your own advice, bitch. The Lord isn't a faggot, so you should stop being a faggot.
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That video is great.
>Best Joker Ever. Yeah, I said it.

Totally agree.
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You demand all nations accept refugees yet you mock the plight of an oppressed minority ruled over by people who covet their land and want to murder them. The Negros of South Africa are like the Jezebel murdering Naboth for his vineyard. Hyporcrite you are.
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@branman65 @ChristiJunior @georgia remember the marthas vineyard stunt? same energy. the people posting online about how we need refugees will shit themselves at having to accept them and plan on moving out
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Notice the "refugees welcome" types are silent about that Ukrainian woman being murdered in North Carolina by a Negro.
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They say that but they literally protested against White refugees from South Africa. They actually just want more niggers and muslims.
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Georgia literally mocked Afrikaners as "rich White farmers"
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In this very thread
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They can't help but let their masks slip constantly, since they're not very bright.

This is something it would be VERY easy for them to be consistent on since all the remaining White South Africans will either be dead or refugees soon. They just hate White people so much they refuse to even pretend to care.
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@georgia

That is the most destructive statement I’ve ever heard.
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They will eat you when they get hungry.
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You are desperate to ignore God's words.
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On a hot dog is the only place chili should NOT have beans, heretic.
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Love does not exclude decapitation. You don't know what love is.
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The word Christian has a very specific meaning.
It is not a synonym for "nice".
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Yeah I won’t try to change your mind 😆

Just know that in the White American Orthodox Kingdom, you’ll have to specify “bean chili“ or ”chili with beans” if you want beans in it; but the opposite if you’re ordering a “chili dog” — ie “hold the beans” or equivalent as chili with beans is the default chili dog smirk

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Until five years ago I had no idea this was even a controversy
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People choose weird hills to die on.
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Yeah man, it’s not worth going to war over; but it’s good to have these things spelled out so people know what to expect beers

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We are not all in this together. They would just as soon slit your throat then rape you, as rape you then slit your throat.

Your world has no meaning to them.
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I’m a Christian and I also think theyre all mud rapist subhumans.
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@georgia

poe's law strikes again

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Of course a troon 👉🏻@Ree would use the ole nigger-tier "No, you!" retort. LOL
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You'll never be a woman, degenerate. LOL!
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@alpha60 @georgia I'm not saying I'm one really gay of you
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@alpha60 @georgia all you're opinions are trash 🗑️
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I agree. It's sad how Whites created an advanced civilization out of an uninhabited wasteland, and then a bunch of 70-IQ nigger invaders from West Africa flooded in and destroyed everything they built.
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