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linuxsisters... what is our response
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@mischievoustomato Skill issue + filtered + gatekept + normie-brained + classic normie L
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@phnt this is funny because I don't need xrandr for anything, never really ever needed it
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@mischievoustomato my response is i went back to using windows because it works and does the stuff i want, the normies were right
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@mischievoustomato Same problem still exists on Gayland. But now you have to do it on a DE/WM level instead of just talking to the X11 server. What previously was a universal tool now must be configured separately for every WM and compositor you might have installed.
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@mischievoustomato @menherahair god forbid you need to debug anything on macos

because there are no docs NIGGER

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@pomstan @menherahair there's nothing to debug yourself, just submit a bug report you poopyhead
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@mischievoustomato >apple products work the way apple wants with apple peripherals
>despite every asshole's best efforts to sabotage it shit like fedora and ubuntu has been working just alright with most hardware for the past decade and can do whatever you want it to with whatever hardware you like if you're willing to learn from the ample documentation
>this is a bad thing
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@mischievoustomato wayland fixes this, tbh even under x this prob isn't an issue unless you use some 1337 window manager
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@mischievoustomato in which case you're actually expected to rtfm
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@phnt @mischievoustomato really? I just plug wildly different monitors in on sway and it just werks
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@snacks @mischievoustomato I'm talking about configuring monitors, which doesn't happen automagically in any WM unless you are running everything at max resolution in a landscape orientation. In that case, you configure your WM/DE to change it. In the case of WMs, that configuration is not portable anywhere else. On X11, you just have a script that calls xrandr with some parameters and that's portable across every WM that does not do it's own monitor management (almost all of them)

That's why I said you moved a problem that had a "central" solution to a solution that isn't portable at all. And the real fun begins when you want to have different monitor configurations based on what peripherals you have connected (a laptop with docks on multiple desks). Scripting that on Wayland must be fun.
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