Never really liked Karlach, her whole character is tailored towards left-leaning lesbians. Much like Astarion, who is tailored towards fujoshis.

Impotent reddit males also count as lesbians

@nerthos i'm a left leaning lesbian, fuck.
Shadowheart has best feet tho

@snacks She was my favourite while she was the original character (not as good as either second half) Minthara would be great if they hadn't made her so ugly

@nerthos right, minthara isn't a massive pain to date anymore... I really need to finish an evil run at some point

@snacks She ended up dead in my playthrough tbh

Wish there was an arc about killing Jaheira (also they ruined Viconia so badly)

@snacks @nerthos
>"evil" run
>where you side with the shadow druids
>and protect the denizens of hell
>in order to kill a hot girl
>who was being brainwashed in the first place
is it evil only because you don't side with refugees

@nerthos jaheira doesn't need an arc to die, she usually dies when i assault ketherics castle lmao

@fluffy @nerthos it's evil because i side with the guys that try to brainwash the whole world???

@snacks While this is true it's not rewarding enough to kill her

@fluffy @snacks The refugees got mad at me because playing a paladin, I passed reasonable judgement on the whole idol theft deal (druids were not to blame, dead thief=good thief regardless of boo boo motivation)

I did a good playthrough, meaning that "well intentioned" assholes got ran over (like the thief kids and the terrorist gnomes)

It was fun.

@snacks @nerthos if you decide to do that, it's something you decide way at the end of the game. minthara has nothing to do with it. saving her isn't evil - killing her is.

@fluffy @snacks I killed her because she ran at me with a weapon tbh

@nerthos @snacks she's cute so how could you kill her? just knock her out or something, you can't tap that if she's dead

@fluffy @snacks I am a TOOL OF JUSTICE (going nonlethal wasn't even in my thought process at that point since every previous encounter was with someone I wanted dead)
The kinda pally that smites first and talk to dead later

@nerthos @snacks i felt bad when i beheaded that demon girl, only to find that she had a backpack and supplies like she was supposed to be a companion

@fluffy @snacks I was close to killing her but dialogue options made enough sense to deescalate and I had gone through the hunters base first so I knew she wasn't in the wrong. Also another point at which having a pally+cleric party made it easy because they could easily identify imposters.

@nerthos @snacks cleric, so you brought the goth chick with you? what was your party

@fluffy @snacks At that point I think it was Custom guy, Shart, Gale and Astarion (lockpick slave). Might have been the alien girl instead of Gale.

I always keep Shart in my party she's useful and easy to keep happy.

@fluffy @nerthos knocking characters out was 99% of the time the exact same as killing them in the beginning, did that get changed?

@snacks @fluffy Also this, I played an early version, hotfix 4 or so.

@fluffy @nerthos i went along with her because i figured i can just meet the paladins and see if she's right or not. She also had important character energy with her unique clothes and appearance

@snacks @nerthos it was toward the end of the year, i want to say patch 3. the teefling-lovers had a big loud fit so devs threw them a bone.

i should play the game again. there's an item randomizer mod i've seen that looks interesting

@fluffy @snacks Friend of mine said back then "I don't like tieflings everyone who plays them is a sex pest" and IMO she's right

@snacks @nerthos would you trade her + the black guy for minty?

@fluffy @nerthos i need to mating press big barbarian woman so i don't wanna, but if i wanna do evil playthrough i have to

@fluffy @snacks I'd trade the black guy for any other party member he's a retard

@nerthos @snacks you can't fuck the devil if you get rid of him tho

@nerthos @fluffy yeah, if i want a warlock i do it myself. Will is annoying

@fluffy @snacks The devil was too slutty for me and I already had the goth chick on extremely high approval

@fluffy @nerthos it's annoying how integrated he is to a bunch of stuff while neing unlikeable

@snacks @fluffy He's the kind of nigger that'd get himself shot by ICE

@nerthos @snacks does the goth chick ever put out?
she grew up in a sex cult but won't let you past first base until you solve all her life problems

@fluffy @snacks Yeah she does and that's actually something I liked about her character, she doesn't want to bang the first hot guy that treats her half decent she has to actually like you. Too many polycule type characters that'll fuck you just for casting heal light wounds on them once, which means they would have also fucked anyone else in your shoes (thus I don't want to fuck them).

@nerthos @snacks minty and frog have some funny lines about him.

they really missed badly by taking what is basically a chuuni and making it a black guy.
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@fluffy @snacks For real. If they had made a stupid but cute character or someone with actual ideals and personal code it would have been fine, but they made the guy unlikable on every field.

@nerthos @snacks haha i see, i never thought about it that way.
personally, i thought she was being manipulative and malicious. i gave her the boot and fucked the frog. actually, the frog arc was really good, despite the whole her being a weird alien thing.

it's a shame there's no actual pure waifu in bg3. unless you install that mod that gender-bends wyll

@fluffy @snacks She was always pretty reliable in my party and didn't do anything treasonous, I guess because my sense of right and wrong naturally aligned with hers. Even handed over The Thing (tm) willingly when needed and I didn't have to give her any indications to do things right at the angel prison. So I was racking crazy goth approval points all the time.
Also didn't have any problems between her and the frog because they both had really high approval (shart for aforementioned and always backing her up when she was right, laezel for being ruthless and honourable in story events) so when they started fighting they both went "ne ne oniichan what should we do"

And that's true the devs are postmodernist cucks who lost their virginities at 12 if lucky so they think it's "old fashioned"

Shart and Laezel remain the best options in this regard though, the former isn't exactly open legged but is 40 years old and therefore had a few exes (there's no implication of it being a LOT of exes, so a 40y/o having 1-3 is ok), and the latter is an alien with her weird warrior mating culture so it's acceptable enough.

At level 20 lay on hands will restore hymen so just gotta grind before the marriage

@nerthos @snacks 1-3 bro?

@fluffy @snacks Cult child rape nonwhistanding.

@nerthos @fluffy i didn't really like the evil cult thing but i had insanely strong cleric equipment so i went along for the ride.
Btw, i hate how you kinda have to go along with the harpers if you donct wanna kill a bunch of refugees and help the bbeg

@nerthos @fluffy maybe i should try freeing the lrisoners and storming the castle on my own, i wonder what happens if i do that and never interact with the harpers

@snacks @fluffy Yeah it's pretty retarded, I didn't have much trouble mostly because I took a long time going back and forth with loot so the druid escaped on his own.
Still, I would have simply killed as many as needed on the grounds of "you're right, you're wrong, you're wrong, you're right, you're right, you're on the edge but that other guy is wronger than you" and then had a beer and called it another good day of delivering justice. Things kinda fell into place.

The druid fort sucked anyway because there was no way to bring the gang of thieves to justice (smiting them where they stand)

@snacks @fluffy I think you can do that if you enter through the underground

@snacks @fluffy Don't remember how I did it exactly though because I went back and forth all over the place

@snacks @nerthos i didn't find the harper place

@nerthos I was surprised at how much I like Lae'zel

@nerthos Also being a bro to Gale means everyone tries to get you two to fuck really bothered me, like "And there goes the immersion" levels of bothering me