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the concept of only living once and then afterliving forever is actually quite absurd
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@georgia it's genuinely such a brainlet view on the nature of the soul
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@georgia compared to eternity, what's the difference between living once and living a finite number of times?
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@georgia but what if I've formed an attachment to this self...what if I'll miss it when it's gone...whatever shall I do :(
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@nyx especially the religions where heaven is just a really pretty opulent earthlike realm. I dont wanna be trapped forever as one unchanging being anywhere even if its paved with gold.
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@patchuun form an attachment to your Atman instead :)
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@georgia I'm not sure there's even a basis in scripture to believe that heaven is like that, it seems like it's mostly an even more brainlet characterization of a particular perspective on the nature of the soul that is presented in such a way that is limited. I gotta read Meister Eckhart at some point
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@genmaicha I believe that the soul itself is of the same substance as God and Ultimate Reality, and thus has no beginning and no end. we come from God, we live the blip of many lives apart from God as part of Gods play of Consciousness, and then we return to Gods supreme state. "if its finite it might as well be meaningless" is kind of reductio ad absurdum, no? everything but God is meaningless in the scheme of things, but there is still meaning.
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@nyx meister eckhart believed in a relationship between the Godhead and the Soul that is similar to hinduism
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@georgia that's why I wanna read him, he seems like he knows what's up
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@georgia what I meant was, I don't think there's a huge functional difference between reincarnation a finite number of times, and no reincarnation at all, if the end result is an eternal afterlife.

do you think the return into God's supreme state is eternal (i.e. permanent) or does the soul eventually get breathed out into the world of matter again?
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@genmaicha karma and the transmigration of souls simply explains a lot of things. why life is "unfair", why its so short, why even short lives are still meaningful for that person, why earth is "ugly" in ways and why we can imagine worlds that are more beautiful...
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@georgia but do you think that a soul transmigrates eternally, or eventually comes to eternal rest?
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@genmaicha I believe that ontologically souls are always part of Gods boundless nature but that the illusory experience of existence as separate from God is not repeated. so, once you escape samsara its forever. you arent you anymore, youre God, so what of yours is there to continue? with a new foundation of samskaras and karma (you exhausted those that you used to have through yoga and after dying), its just a new soul. God is infinite, truly infinite beyond conception of numbers or cardinality, so He doesnt need to do repeats.
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@georgia @genmaicha but we're that already, we only fail to realize it. Mostly because we waste time trying to solve it with complicated philosophy.
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