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idk what to make of derive and wayland.fyi and 9larp im just very confused by the whole thing i feel like its a psyop

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i feel like its just the suckless people but this time trying to not let everyone know its nazis

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@fiore conceptually i really like wayland.fyi so i really hope it's not nazis in a trenchcoat again...
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@navi me n @rosey were looking at 9larp.net last night and idk it kinda looks like it but also its on sr.ht so who tf knows .

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@navi @rosey sending a text to drew devault asking him to do some investigations /silly

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@fiore @rosey yea rosey also mentioned those to me

9larp i have no real idea or opinion about

but i do care about minimal wayland :/
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@fiore wayland.fyi is kinda suckless brained but their points are entirely correct.

I can't fathom how sucklesstards suck up to X11.
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@navi @rosey also the whole “statically linked distro” is just very suckless to me . didnt they also have smth like that or am i trippin

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@fiore @rosey @navi they tried to make a distro using plan9port utils afaik and wanted it to comptete with ubuntu or something.


Honestly one of the more admirable suckless endeavours
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@fiore @rosey @navi eh 9larp only seems sussy due to vocabulary like *larp imo,

Given that they even clarify the terminology it doesn't seem to have the edgy we are elite jargonists kind of feel

also
>3. Do not be (too much of) an asshole
>4. Do not be a bigot; racism, antisemitism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, ableism and alike won't be tolerated (look: point 3)
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@fiore @rosey @navi yeah folk round that corner tend to be more channer adjacent (kinda a red flag, but honestly not really an indicator of being a total ass, maybe in some explicitly more chuddite sort of community but most folk just tend to inhert that vocbulary and tend to be more of the more tolerable/fixable kind of people of the type)
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@fiore now this isnt true actually i met you and you were cuddly and italian and girl
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@tori thosr are also true . you were also cuddly and girl ! but . british

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@TheOneDoc imean

> interviewed by brodie
> “sucked less” in title

like . im not getting your point

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@TheOneDoc @fiore ewww why are they british
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t slur
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@TheOneDoc imean yea fair but idk . ill keep an eye on the project because wayland.fyi seems cool , but also theres a chuddy vibe going on . as i said , 9larp.net having a bunch of troonjaks on it is not rlly a good look for the project its affiliated with .

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@fiore @navi @rosey

Oh yeah I had just skimmed and didnt pay attention to what was depicted lol aside from being a jak but paying attention yeah -

that was definitely some chuddy shitter being an ass and should likely get removed simply on the basis of the rules above
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@TheOneDoc yea , its still bad tho . i myself have done questionable shit . it doesnt excuse that its horrible to joke about

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@meeper @fiore @rosey ig i'll make my opinion about it based on if that post gets removed within a few days or not
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@meeper @rosey @navi yea ill see what happens i suppose

i havent decided on a verdict yet ig . the fiorecourt isnt done

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@navi @fiore @rosey

yeah, they quite explicitly put *phobia not tolerated in the rules so I feel anyone who would tend to avoid removing something like that on the basis of being 'apolitical' or whatever words wouldn't use language like that in the first place

so id cut them a decent bit of slack
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@meeper @rosey @navi to be clear , im not trying to find a target to whack or anything . im just trying to understand if this community i have discovered , that seems to share some ideals with me , would be a safe space for me and my friends , and whether thats something that can potentially hold with time .

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@fiore @rosey @navi

i get you :/ , I've a bad habit of speaking my idle musings without much thought or intention so you don't need to look into it too much
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@tori @fiore > Italian

that’s a psyop Italy isn’t real

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@fiore unless the derive thing is a psyop i dont think this guy is a nazi or other type of right winger.
because naming something after some obscure french marxist concept feels like strong signal of his actual current beliefs
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@Mae oh yea it does !! i rlly like the idea

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