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Lucy [hiatus era] 𒌋𒁯

i need a job
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@lucy what would Jesus do?

Carpentry
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@arcana you should work as a carpenter for a while
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@lucy I don’t know what those things mean by I do find carpentry appealing
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@arcana it says what you earn (gross income) during the 3 years of training and afterwards.
what's appealing about it? and please don't say "i like making things out of wood" this is not what this job is about
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@lucy you learn to make cool things out of wood. Good for bushcraft and homesteading. Become a master craftsman and sell your goods at a premium supporting by a YouTube channel. People love watching stuff on there. You could sell stuff on Etsy.
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@arcana have you ever seen such a place?
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@lucy yes, quite a lot actually. They’re all over YouTube for a start, and I know of some people from my high school that got into carpentry in such a way
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@lucy I think you should stick to programming though
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@arcana im not good enough at programming to make a living tho
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@arcana @lucy Programming is possibly the hardest job to get in IT after security. The expectation are insane, employers don't know what they really want and they don't care what you can do unless you have a degree or years of experience.
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@phnt @arcana i would take any oh so horrible sysadmin job if someone would hire me
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@arcana@fedi.layer02.net @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz that is more about social media marketing than carpentry except for a handful of people who lucked into it

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@anemone @lucy maybe sure, though I know people who don’t do it on social media, they make wooden things for the local market
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@phnt @lucy yeah I was a senior dev and project lead for a while with a background in security and networking. I have quite an extensive security background actually from the early to mid 2010s but I’m a bit rusty now
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@lucy I thought you were good at embedded programming
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@arcana then how am i unemployed
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@lucy @arcana That is if you can find one after the IT admin department downsizing many corps decided to do during and after coof (at work I and 2 other coworkers manage systems for ~200+ employees). Personally I've found maybe 4 sysadmin job offers in 3 months that didn't scream "we are doomed and need someone" or payed acceptable salary.

If this makes you feel any better, a friend in another company worked with a literal server maid tranny for months. You can get in, even with a lot of brainworms.
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@lucy because you say you’re bad at things, why would anybody want to hire somebody who claims to be bad at everything?
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@arcana i don't tell them
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@lucy @arcana Are you confident (about what you know) in front of them?
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@lucy yes but you’re clearly unconfident. Confidence gets you jobs.

I would say you’re a better programmer than me and yet I’ve been able to get programming jobs. It’s about the confidence and showcasing your abilities and personality.
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@lucy @arcana Then try to work on that. If an interviewer asks you something you don't know, don't leave them at "I don't know" and at least try to give them an idea how you would solve/figure out X and how you would learn Y. And so on.

Also unironically do you have a public git* profile that you can point someone to with toy projects or contributions. For some reason, some companies care about that. Or so I've heard.
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@phnt @lucy the git thing is a good suggestion though certainly not a requirement. A lot of stuff I worked on in the past was under strict secrecy and NDAs but I did show off some code for a web app start up I made.
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@phnt @arcana yeah but my git is pretty empty and ime they don't even look into that. they don't really look into anything i attach.
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@lucy @phnt can you give an example of an application you make, I’m curious what you write in your cover letters which imo are the most important part before the interview
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