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>xmpp
>superseded by better clients
AHAHA
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@twinspin6 if you can stomach GTK to any degree, Dino works well.
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@twinspin6 @prettygood i think dino and gimp are my only gtk programs
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@twinspin6 sure, but what are the other options? PSI doesn't do omemo correctly, if at all. Kaidan is pointless. Monocles desktop is abandonware already. Profanity is "fine I guess" if you want a CLI client. Everything else is GTK anyway.
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@prettygood @twinspin6 LMAO

ROFL even

back when I used XMPP more actively, Dino sometimes wouldn't decrypt media correctly and it would take like half an hour to decrypt a 500kB image

and the UI is way too basic

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@higuma @twinspin6 I only tried it out of desperation after gajim stopped connecting to my server for no good reason. At least it sorts out keying issues with no drama
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@prettygood @twinspin6 the first time i tried dino was when I was trying to use an XMPP server that had Unicode characters in the domain name and gajim simply couldn't handle that

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@higuma @twinspin6 I'm surprised there's no mechanism to resolve it into one of those xn----398147.edu type shit domains
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@prettygood punycode, you're welcome

alas, using emojis inside domain names means go fuck yourself

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@higuma @prettygood @twinspin6 tbh I just use profanity. Not the prettiest (unless you like the 1337 hackstetics) but it works reliably and runs on basically anything that isn't a literal potato
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@reiddragon @twinspin6 @higuma I wish profanity worked like weechat where it was meant to run on a server or something, and not wired in with desktop notifications etc. that pull in desktop libraries as explicit dependencies.
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@prettygood @twinspin6 @higuma weechat isn't really made to run as a server thing, it's made to run wherever.

But also Profanity also doesn't really *need* to run all the time like an IRC client to fetch messages, the server will serve them later when you log in. The hard dependencies on desktop stuff like notifications can be annoying, but it's a small price to pay for relative sanity when compared to dealing with gtk
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@reiddragon @twinspin6 @higuma but if it could run on a server I could have a single tmux window with both weechat and profanity and have a nice compact single terminal for them both.
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@prettygood @twinspin6 @higuma apparently you can built profanity without the components that require the desktop-specific libs? At least I see the termux build of profanity makes no mention of libnotify (though it's also possible they patched it out or are emulating libnotify in libandroid-support)
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