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Well, then

I guess we're getting a little bent out of shape about the holocaust then, right?

right?
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I believe it's a Christian social construct and is antithetical to the jewish mindset especially when they consider all of us, including you, as nothing more than livestock.
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@Terry plenty of christians on this very network consider me just that, too, if not significantly lower. or at least they claim to. i'm not certain where you fall on the PQ (throwing indian-esque names around is hardly evidence of anything; i do that myself) but either way, i'm sure you know many people who fall on what is, by "human" "rights" "logic," the wrong side of it. surely you don't mean to imply, then, that a belief in "human" "rights" is inherent to christianity.
if instead you simply mean such a belief is inherently christian, as in, that non christian presuppositions cannot lead to considering the "rights" of "humans", sure, i don't dispute that. but then why is it that nearly everybody that brings up human rights does so to justify infinity foreign adventures by the u.s. military, infinity second chances for jamal donquavius mcbantu, infinity oestrogen for you son because he accidenyalky looked at a dress too long in the store... but never do they discuss the human rights of whites to ethnic homelands, never do they discuss the human rights of young white christian men to own property, never do they discuss the human right of young white christian men to a church and strad they can belong in and that won't resent them and condemn their blood...
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I'm not sure if I believe in human rights. Might is right. Life is competition. The world mostly moved in the right direction BEFORE terms like "human rights," when there was proper, natural social hierarchy.
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you're conflating Christian Evangelicals with the rest of European Christianity.
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@Terry perhaps so. is not the language of human rights abused in europe as well, by those in power; self-professed christians and the openly irreligious alike?
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@HatkeshiatorTND @Terry
Well, there are different things here.

The first is politicians twisting words to justify what ever it is they want to do.

The second is the war on what Christians feel are their unalienable rights from God (at least in the US, and at least taught sometime in the recent past).

Politician talking about they someone needs their rights defended, they are strapping together support for something unpopular.

Politicians talking about how rights are just a construct, or arbitrary? They want to remove freedom of speech, freedom to bare arms, right to privacy.
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I guess my big issue with this rhetoric is it's downstream from talking about war crimes.
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Yeah, that's kinda tough. World & international power structures still shouldn't be outright abusive.
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@GoyGirl @Terry i don't like the language of 'war crimes,' because it is legalist-positivist slop. crimes are constructs of a state, and there is not currently a one world state, nor should there be. ergo, each state can define war crimes its own way, so if committing war crimes justifies x, y, and z actiona against you, states can simply twist definitions to justify x, y, z, and history tells us, somehow also.significantly more violent w against anybody and anything that stands between them.and maximum tax revenue.
nevertheless, the instinct to recoil at some of the stuff israel does is not entirely unsound. as i said in another thread, open bloodlust is a symptom of anger, and wanton bloodlust of a man consumed by anger. any people, subjected to isra'el's present condition in the middle east, would do what they're doing to palestinians -- at least, any people that has a shred of self-respect and wants to live. isra'el's excesses are in trying to maliciously rope other nations into their conflicts, cheat them out of resources, attack and destroy nations that are not in their way, and abuse the mandate of a nation to defend its people in an attempt to restore entirely imagined irredenta of their fictional jew-empire.
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Israel has no right to exist. Rights aren't real, after all.
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@HatkeshiatorTND @GoyGirl @Terry and as if war is some game rather than the destruction of an enemy
I don't care about dead palestinians as might and greed in and of itself isn't bad in my view, but israel's history of false flags make it unworkable as an ally so it makes a good pretext for turning israel into glass
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the only human rights are to be born and to die

everything else you gotta fight for
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@nigger @HatkeshiatorTND @GoyGirl @Terry
China and Russia:
*practice allyship with Israel without getting dragged into forever wars pikachuS*
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@nigger @GoyGirl @HatkeshiatorTND @Terry

cc @Terry China has a lot of trade with Israel, Putin called Israel "part of the russian world".
The US public just has a skill issue of falling for the same warmongers again and again (blue and red) without ever presenting them with consequences
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@dagda @HatkeshiatorTND @GoyGirl @Terry I didn't say anything about trade, and Russian oligarchs have their own echoes
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@nigger @HatkeshiatorTND @dagda @GoyGirl @Terry i painted my face yellow and the jew weeped with every dropped shekle, few have cobsidered the advantages of simply being chinese
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Notice that the man addressed besides Terry is a Jew.
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@dalancan @Terry i don't recall claiming jews are metaphysically incapable of making good points.
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While I do agree that there's none natural nor inherent right for humans, I will point out that the Jew can simply repeat a coinciding idea just to deceive. The other option, not necessary exclusive, is that this is a mask off, they've decided to stop playing pretend. If this sounds to be prejudicial from my side is because it's exactly that.
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@dalancan @Terry i agree. just because the ad is telling me the product contains "zero sugar" in order to sell me the product, doesn't mean that the ad is wrong. and just as "zero sugar" often means "infinite infinitely worse stuff", so too "human rights does not into real, anon" is an appeal to what is strictly true to excuse what is unrelated and absurd i.e. constant warmongering, parasitism off of more honorable peoples, and sadistic foreign policy on the part of isra'el.
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Is there any competition between ants and an aardvark? Between an entangled fly and a spider? Between a tuna and a shark? Clearly not. You could mention examples of struggle but they are not the rule. On the other hand, yes, there was a hierarchy of God, the Highest, then followed by Culture Man, but that is rejected by gobshites who claim to be Enlightened and put the human above all.
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