Communists reducing police funding in Berlin will totally not lead to a Los Angeles situation with fentanyl druggies stabbing you at the train station

@kaia

If you think that Los Angeles is like that because of cuts to police funding (not a thing) then I truly don't know what to tell you.

@subnetter in red states I haven't heard of such a thing?

@kaia It's a stab or get stabbed world out there.

@kaia

Yeah, it's almost as if red states ship their homeless and tweakers out here just like the rest of the country does.

Nothing to do with cuts to police funding, because simple research will show you the exact opposite in Los Angeles county.

@subnetter @kaia tangential but i remember when Xi Jinping visited some place in America and all the druggies and hobos got pushed around to make the pace look clean and nice and it made people think "so you CAN deal with this"

@kaia this is some "Mamdani will introduce sharia law" type shit not backed by reality

@silhouette @kaia
brother has let the ummah down alhamdullilah

@subnetter @kaia what else do you reckon is responsible for the Los Angeles of today that many hope will eventually become Arizona Bay?

@jeremiah @kaia

I don't want to get into it right now because this is a long topic and can turn into an essay, I can write more on this another time, but all I'm saying is that Los Angeles is over policed and funding almost entirely goes towards LAPD and LASD along with tax payer dollars to cover the costs of corruption scandals and criminal charges against law enforcement. Alex Villanueva and Sheriff Lee Baca both had insanely shady histories.

And it is a fact that transients are shipped here to Los Angeles. Conservative cities here also move them from place to place, send them to my city, and sometimes they're shipped to the desert to cover up the state of affairs while there are international events.

It is simply ironic to act as if the sea of insufferable wannabe actor transplants and homeless transplants are a symptom of the state and not the country as a whole.

@kaia only a slight worsen from femtanyl durggies stabbing me at home

@mischievoustomato @kaia @subnetter Chadvin Chadsom

@kaia communists with connections to local criminal syndicates and foreign terrorists

@ElDeadKennedy @kaia @subnetter chadvin chadsom i kneel

@dagda @subnetter literally me
thought i cant get deported yet (havent gone to america yet)
it'd be hilarious though

@dagda @subnetter separate*

@mischievoustomato @subnetter
I armed lawless thugs throwing me in an internment camp (they own the libs)

@dagda @subnetter hey, people got what they voted for. And you can't deny that me going thru that would be hilarious.

@mischievoustomato @subnetter
tomato after being deported to venezuela (ICE doesn't know where peru is)
gigachad got what I voted for …

@dagda @subnetter literally but uh i didnt vote? also where the fuck is venezuela in the map?

@subnetter @kaia @jeremiah i feel like the homeless and crime situation in these far *left cities is mostly related to decriminalization of drugs and good weather being attractive to homeless drug addicts. they can get free welfare services and drug paraphanalia, get high and camp out on the street without being hassled. you can't really do that in conservative cities or places where it's cold in the winter.

also liberal cities are extremely soft on theft so they can do things like shoplift and steal catalytic converters without getting in much trouble

@meowski @kaia @subnetter along the lines of accomodating locale, Madison Wisconsin is a great comparison because, 8 months of the year, it has policies similar to Los Angeles. Four months of the year, the cold weeds out the weak and incompetent.

My hometown, a bit south of that, has similar problems from the perspective that anyone who shows up with their hand out is a priority over already-deferred maintnenace and local priorities. The homeless there also mostly leave in the winter and show up like clockwork in the spring with their hands out, taking over public spaces (including children's playgrounds), shitting in playground equipment among other endearing acts and life choices.

All of the towns but one within 45 miles do not have these problems, even as they have at least a soup kitchen and a shelter. What they don't have is tolerance of drugs and bad behavior, and so the transients don't stick around.

Finally, there's the definition shell game: "they're homeless." While accurate, it is next-to-useless. WHY are they homeless? By choice (many vagabonds/travellers)? As a function of being a junkie/alcoholic? Low IQ / "not economically viable" (to quote my favorite LA movie) or simply criminal and moving among the unaccounted?

The logic of people that say, "there are more empty homes than homeless people" have probably not driven through neighborhoods with half of the houses burned out by junkies and vandals.

It seems to me it's pretty easy to manage these problems by simply not putting up with antisocial behavior and not offering much more hospitaility than soup, bread, and water to people who are not interested in treatment / development programs.

@jeremiah @kaia @subnetter when i was younger i was all for drug decriminalization, and i still am for some drugs like weed and psychedelics, but fentanyl and meth abuse have become a serious problem in some places where addicts tend to concentrate. last time i was on the west coast it was disturbing. it was never like that when i was younger with so many drug addicts stumbling around. in the past ~ 20 years things have changed a lot.

i suppose if people want to destroy their lives with drugs that's their choice and you can't really prevent it, but we do need to lock people up for theft and other crimes that homeless people tend to commit, and repeat offenders need to suffer more serious consequences, and we need to bring back mental institutions. going soft on all this stuff was a huge mistake.

@dagda @mischievoustomato @subnetter GOT WHAT I VOTED FOR AWARD

Fentanyl's an opiate; people on it just kind of lie there like lumps. You might be thinking of cocaine.

@jeremiah @meowski @kaia

I wouldn't say it's tolerance it's more like a business model where these "helping" programs pass out pookie pipes to crackheads. Non profits are a scam.

@meowski @kaia @jeremiah that's why they are sent to these states, it's all about the money to keep these people down. Same situation if you look into section 8 and affordable housing programs. You literally can't save or anything, you give everything to the state and they own you. It's really weird and jarring seeing these high luxury buildings here converted into section 8 scams.

@kaia Berlin is already a post-apocalyptic landscape (Flughafen Berlin Brandenburg), with their own pip-boy (der Ampelmann)

@mischievoustomato "somewhat right wing" you don't even know what you believe in you just think dumb chud shit is funny

@meowski @kaia @subnetter the problem with locking people up for theft is that it isn't actually a deterrent, and it costs taxpayers thousands a day.

I'm in favor of simply banning people from cities and states for crimes that breech public trust, that is, contribute to a lower-trust society. If it's your third offence and you're local -- out. If it's your first offence and you're not local: out. Minimum 30 year ban. 50 if you're a mouthy fuck with no respect for the people and place you're in.

"If you can't play nice, go home" seems a perfectly legitimate approach, and far cheaper than feeding and warehousing useless eaters.

@subnetter trudat. isnt chud stuff right wing? thus im such a fat right wing chud

@kaia @subnetter Memphis and St. Louis are shitholes, the only reason why you don't hear about crime in cities like those is because they're smaller and less culturally significant

"9 people died in homicides in Chicago over the weekend" gets attention, but they tend to leave out that the Chicago metro has more people in it than Ireland

@jeremiah @kaia @subnetter my man the cost of keeping someone in prison is nowhere near thousands of $ per day. it's more like $100 per day, and that's far cheaper than having drug addicts running around robbing people and committing violent crimes and generally making life hell for everyone. that's a cost we have to pay as a society to keep the rest of the normal people safe. not to mention the deterrant effect, if people know they'll be locked up, they won't commit the crimes in the first place and then the cost is zero.

i don't know how you're going to ban people from a state without having all kinds of dystopian face scanning cameras everyw... wait a minute

@subnetter @kaia @jeremiah it wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that some states give drug addicts and bums free bus tickets to states where there are more services for them. that just makes economic sense.

many of these people are in this situation because they don't want to change. that's their lifestyle. i think there is plenty of opportunity to change but little incentive to.

personally i think charity should be 100% voluntary. no state sponsored welfare whatsoever. absolutely no free gibs for anyone. every bit of free gibs handed out is taken by force from someone else under penalty of prison by the IRS and that is slavery.

@subnetter @kaia @jeremiah the homeless non-profit industry in these liberal cities is extremely fraudulent. the amount of money they spend on these programs is nowhere near proportional to the amount of aid and support they give to individuals. it's a huge grift

@meowski @kaia @subnetter i suppose i'm thinking of prison rates. Even if it's $20 a day, we've got a better use for $20 than giving money to sysco and the police union.

@meowski @kaia @subnetter ... and yes, I'm thinking of face scanning. Not liking it doesn't mean it isn't going to happen, so, let's get something from it once it's up.

I'm also thinking of, "if you're caught breeching a ban, you've just signed up for an extraorindarily long stay at a labor camp."

It should not be incumbent upon the public to support the people harming them. Even a penny a day.

@jeremiah @kaia @subnetter we could just prosecute the crimes when they happen in the first place, instead of sending people on 50-state circuit where they just go from one state to the next until they're banned from everywhere.

@meowski @kaia @subnetter
I completely agree that charity should be voluntary (or, by definition, it is not charity.)

I'm split on the matter of bus tickets. On one hand, I think it's a great idea to burn out these programs by overloading them, on the other hand, I don't think these programs should exist.

However, if it were my town, I would absolutely support bussing them to whatever bunch of retards wants to sacrifice quality of life to idealism.

@jeremiah @kaia @subnetter but isn't the money for that bus ticket also taken from taxpayers by force? i think just prosecuting crimes and having charity be 100% voluntary would be a good start.

@meowski @kaia @subnetter banned from everywhere sounds good to me. There are other continents. 🌍

@jeremiah @kaia @subnetter too complicated. just lock people up when they commit crimes. they can work in prison, dry out from drugs, and even learn valuable skills if they have good behavior and pay for their incarceration.

@subnetter @mischievoustomato

That has a name, it's called irony poisoning.

@subnetter @mischievoustomato of what I've seen of Tomato he doesn't come across as someone who has beliefs. Rather he seems to me a man who's pure phallus, like a biomechanical penis that's sodomizing someone on an H.R. Giger painting. A penis has no beliefs.

@sunbeam_rider @subnetter im da dickman

@meowski @kaia @subnetter the question is what happens after. If you put a junkie in jail for hacksawing a catalytic converter, his junkie friends pick him up and they go right back to it. This means that the jailing, the cost of operating it, and the time spent handling this person is wasted effort from the moment the cops nab them.

If you put them in a bus, trebuchet, or leaky old submarine, the (useless) process is not likely to be repeated, so the cost to the public is one-time-only, and if they return, it can justify far more severe penalties. Like being target practice or fertilizer, ideally.

@jeremiah @kaia @subnetter there's no deterrant if someone just gets a free bus ticket to the next state for committing a crime. the point is they're not on the street right away. they get a chance to dry out and think about what they've done. and if they go do it again, they get a longer sentence next time.

this stuff isn't that complicated. this is the way it's worked for a long, long time and it works pretty well, if you actually apply it. it can't be a revolving door where people can commit 50 violent crimes and get released the next day each time until they murder someone

@meowski @kaia @subnetter we've been doing that for over a century in some places, and... here we are. So I'm thinking it doesn't work.

As to the jail/prison distinction, they won't be in a jail long enough to learn anything useful, and if they are, it's the jail cost + educational cost.

If they, outside, approach for help, then sure. In long-term situations like prison, absolutely. In jail? Clean your cell and shut up.

@jeremiah @kaia @subnetter it doesn't work because they stopped doing it. this wasn't an issue when people used to actually do the time for their crimes. sure there were some repeat offenders but nothing like what we're seeing now

@meowski @kaia @subnetter how can you say it works well when prosecutors, judges, and DAs let people walk?

A longer sentence doesn't tend to change junkies. It's just more wasted money.

Moving them on... again, one time costs for each effected place and no repeats of their bullshit. Why should I have to pay for some junkie's tenth visit to our town's jail when the street in front of my house requires a treaded vehicle to negotiate the potholes?

Given that some places (LA, etc.) will embrace them, they're likely to stay. If that's not acceptable, there's always bullets. They're cheaper yet.

@jeremiah @kaia @subnetter how can i say it works when they're doing the exact opposite of the the thing that works? that's pretty straightforward. you have to actually do the thing.

so now we've skipped everything and going straight to summary exceution? that's interesting. i dont' know if i agree with that.

anyhow i have to do some work today... lots of people depending on me to pay taxes

@meowski @kaia @subnetter i don't think that's the only variable. The drugs they were in trouble for were also different, and in far different proportions and quantities.

It's like building a system around managing people with a drinking problem, and have it flooded with fentanyl users and methheads.

It's not the same problems, so the same solutions are not necessarily (in many cases demonstrably not) appropriate any longer.

I'm sick of looking at it, I'm interested in long term (final?) solutions to this problem, or at least management of it so I can feel okay about walking barefoot in the public park down street and not have to clean up after bums in the back lot.

@colonelj @subnetter thats a nice love story

@mischievoustomato @colonelj @subnetter transfags are incapable of love.

@meowski @kaia @subnetter summary executions, i believe, would be a far more effective deterrent than the eighth stay as a guest of the taxpayer.

As I said, I'm sick of dealing with it, and my compassion (and patience) for the issue is completely drained. I'm looking for cheap, effective, and pragmatic. That describes bullets much better than any current government process for dealing (or failing to deal) with these problems.

I would also say it is an incentive to come up with something that works to avoid summary executions -- knowing that a failure to succeed has a human cost. Call it a "Solomonic" solution.

@noyoushutthefuckupdad @colonelj @subnetter you got your heart broken by one?

@mischievoustomato @colonelj @subnetter yes, some looney troon stabbed me in the heart with a piece of rebar and i died

@noyoushutthefuckupdad @colonelj @subnetter its so sad, 13 likes

@noyoushutthefuckupdad @mischievoustomato @colonelj @subnetter same as you.

@colonelj @mischievoustomato @subnetter another cheap imitation boxy but this one has a penis no thanks

@Jelqberg_Mcjelqstein @colonelj @subnetter you dont like chix with dix?

@kaia they just need to figure out that covid time funding, where somehow it was possible in berlin to police curfews, selling alcohol and sitting on park benches.

@mischievoustomato @colonelj @subnetter no I don't I've bullied @ube off the fedi like 8 times I explicitly don't like man women or male daughters no thanks

@Jelqberg_Mcjelqstein @colonelj @subnetter @ube you got bullied out of the fediverse 8 times?

@mischievoustomato @colonelj @subnetter @ube impossible not me and now I'm gonna have a melty. Any idea why I'd show u this Mr tomato 🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅?

@mischievoustomato @colonelj @subnetter @ube correct, now stare into the eyes of your sins 🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅

@Jelqberg_Mcjelqstein @colonelj @subnetter @ube bruh not clicking that

@kaia is fentanyl a big problem in germany yet?

@genmaicha tbh I dunno what the people at the train station take. worst experience so far was in Hamburg where we had to get up early to catch a train and two guys were busy injecting themselves in the only exit of our AirBnB and got aggressive when we tried to exit. without my husband that would have been horrific.

@kaia @genmaicha it really is normal at train stations these days, lots of insane people too. police does nothing, it's not like it's hard to see who to throw out. saw it in düsseldorf, münchen...

@lain @kaia yeah munich was surprisingly rough when I visited

@Jelqberg_Mcjelqstein @mischievoustomato @colonelj @ube this is legitimately the worst shit I seen in my life KILL YOURSELF

@subnetter @mischievoustomato @colonelj @ube I've got so many beautiful things to show you

@Jelqberg_Mcjelqstein @mischievoustomato @colonelj @ube

Keep your fetishes to yourself

@Jelqberg_Mcjelqstein @mischievoustomato @colonelj @subnetter @ube if I could ban you I totally would what a faggot.

@colonelj @mischievoustomato @subnetter That's just @paula8

@Ree @mischievoustomato @colonelj @subnetter @ube sure iceloops no one cares

@Jelqberg_Mcjelqstein @mischievoustomato @colonelj @subnetter @ube i hope one day you kill yourself for being a depressing loser

@Ree @mischievoustomato @colonelj @subnetter @ube we get it iceloops u like gay sex and aids no one cares

@Jelqberg_Mcjelqstein @mischievoustomato @colonelj @subnetter @ube says the guy posting guys getting their dicks cut off

@subnetter @mischievoustomato @Jelqberg_Mcjelqstein @colonelj @ube
I used to live in Cali and remember when cops would just shoot homeless people when they would chimp out. It was messy but it was better than what they do now.

@dj @mischievoustomato @Jelqberg_Mcjelqstein @colonelj @ube huh you used to live in Cali? New lore unlocked

@Ree @mischievoustomato @colonelj @subnetter @ube we get it we get it you like men cumming in your butt your a freak. U failed to deplatform from me com salon and ur still upset about that but still no one cares me monkey pox

@Jelqberg_Mcjelqstein @mischievoustomato @colonelj @subnetter @ube the way you keep talking makes you sound gay retard

@Jelqberg_Mcjelqstein @Ree @colonelj @mischievoustomato @subnetter @ube
Wait a min, this is the real ice loops and not just ew larping?
Holy shit I feel like Indiana Jones and we finally found the lost ark.

@dj @mischievoustomato @Jelqberg_Mcjelqstein @colonelj @subnetter @ube what ever pedo

@Ree @mischievoustomato @Jelqberg_Mcjelqstein @colonelj @subnetter @ube
Lol, I remember you posted all the gay flags on your profile once. It was like a bingo card and depending on the weather I guess you would pick one. Sunny with a chance for penis. Or low pressure and storms, gonna be an ace day listening to My Chemical Romance albums while contemplating self harm.

@subnetter @mischievoustomato @Jelqberg_Mcjelqstein @colonelj @ube

Yeah I used to be one of those hippie types that thought the world was overpopulated so Darwin awards were my entertainment.
I mean, it is overpopulated but I don't agree with the WEF and Bill Gates that want to cull us, I just like it when dumb people self delete.