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@nyx @MURRUMUR that sounds highly insalubrious to put it mildly
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@jeremiah @meowski its not perceived racism but actual racism
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@jeremiah Theravada Buddhists can't really be called atheists, more like nontheists. and mahayana Buddhists are pretty much polytheists but still believe in the unity of the buddhawomb. even if they do not know it, they are yoked to God, I would say, in effect, for that is what liberation is.
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@nyx pretty sure one day youll find sequences of numbers cringe too!
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sophistry or fair point? I'd say its true, God is beyond matter and beyond thought. God is pure consciousness (chit) and is thus best worshipped as pure consciousness (in samadhi)...
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for that matter i find it very funny that many catholics think God resides more in sacramental bread that in their own souls
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pretty sure God genuinely hates the formula used for "awakening the statue." His Presence is already everywhere, including in the statue. and ishvara cannot be commanded... its not like saying "this is my body" about the host, using Gods own words to reveal his divine immanence especially in regard to the Holiness of sacraments.
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this is a huge reason that its a benefit to have many forms of a Supreme God or Supreme Goddess in your religion
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@meowski @jeremiah if someone is racist their facts are going to be cherry picked and biased
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not verbatim but "kirtana is the only way to eliminate samskaras along with the bad karma of previous actions" "because ishvara is manifest in songs and names about him, and there can be no impurity where ishvara is. thus samskaras are eliminated, and bad deeds aren't returned to". first off, wouldnt this also apply to hearing Gods word? is God not present in His Word? or to sacraments instituted by God? and doesnt God also dwell in true knowledge? so there ought to be many ways of eliminating samskaras in the fires of ishvaras purity...
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@meowski @jeremiah its literally uses a slur for Indian in the title. I'm never watching it.
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@jeremiah also yoga isnt yoking a person to his guru its always yoking a person to God. which is what mystics of all religions do. from the Discalced Carmelites to the sufis to the quietists to the Buddhists.
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@meowski @jeremiah why would I watch something blatantly racist. I'm not reading mein kampf either.
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@anemone imagine thinking vagina is an acquired taste what a faggot
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@jeremiah India's caste system is greatly diminished from its previous strength thanks mostly to hindu social reformers in the bhakti movement. india has its problems but is no where near a hell on earth. and when I say american protestantism leads to satanism I mean it creates grifters and antinomian sinners and from there theres a short bridge to be crossed to atheist mammon worship.
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I also really like the Kashmir shaivi belief that all is Consciousness, even energy.
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@jeremiah you dont understand what bhakti yoga is. you dont need to worship a hindu God. all the great christians mystics and saints were bhakti yogis. and dont say "look at what did for india" in your arrogance and racism. look at what "protestant christianity" did for america. ruthless satanic pedophile capitalism. the distinction is not between religions but between those who love self and those who love God and one another.
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self-righteous preacher voice: NO, ALL DOGS DO NOT GO TO HEAVEN. NO DOGS GO TO HEAVEN!!!
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I'm advaita vedanta pilled but certain personal experience (of the supernatural kind) have led me to believe that bhakti is the best path to God, not jnana. I also believe that all liberation is won by undeserved (though some deserve more than others) Grace from the Supreme Lord, because finite merit (karma) cannot produce infinite good fruit (and moksha is where bondage to karma ends, it is not the fruit of karma though some are born better predisposed to experience God on account of their karma, but it comes moreso on account of Gods mercy). I also believe that while full liberation produces siddhis and practical omniscience, it does not produce omnipotence nor does it produce complete knowledge of Gods mysteries. I believe the full fruit of moksha doesnt come until after death even for the jivanmukta, and that full fruit is total union with God.
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