@sathariel sole fide is toxic I agree but any belief that advocates for a devotion to God including devotion to God in the bhava as savior is one that leads to final beatitude. "God suffered for you out of pure love so love and believe in Him", I see nothing but love of God in this.

@technolyze @sathariel honestly in your last post it seemed like your ideology was entirely based on jesus saying father why have you forsaken me and "take this cup from me" and now it seems like it really is based on that. jesus preached that the greatest commandment is to love God with all your heart so that really can't be reconciled with your assertion. highest dharma isnt to love one another because others have your back when God doesnt (which is in an inversion, God has your back when others dont and many of jesuss neighbors were cruel to him) its to love all beings with an even eye, seeing God in them and them in God. also the resurrection was a very early christian belief and I'd argue if it had not happened christianity wouldnt have taken off so much as a successful sect in light of it challenging judaism in so many ways. the first ending of mark has the women find the tomb empty. everything in mark after 16 verse 8 is added sure.

@sathariel why are you so mad about this is the question

@technolyze @sathariel thats just secular humanism though. secular humanism has never led to liberation, if you want that become a mahayana buddhist.

@sathariel thats a pretty simplistic rendering of jesuss mission he didnt just have firm faith in God in the face of suffering he actively wanted others to take up their own cross and suffer with him, abandoning all worldly ties for the highest dharma of love of God and eachother. and his suffering was a suffering that freed others from the bondage of their sin by their bhakti in him as an avatara. a lot of historic Christian mystical thought involving ecstatic states involves focusing on christs passion and sharing in it with him. again, devoting your suffering to God is an ultimate act of submitting to the will of God. its not masochism.

@sathariel you gotta be more specific. if youre talking about karma then Indian thought has pretty complex theories about it. but "dharmic conduct brings pleasant results but adharmic conduct brings bad fruit including suffering" is one of the few things agreed upon by everyone. there is debate about action vs inaction but I'd argue the bhagavad gita settles it.

@lebronjames75 God is too merciful to damn anyone eternally take the infinite grace pill

@subnetter @djsumdog @sarvo the phone part of my phone isnt working right now so I couldnt use signal

@sathariel sorry what? saying suffering expiates is just basic karma theory, and theres nothing masochistic about devoting ones suffering to God (sattvic and beyond the gunas). it is the opposite of masochism (tamasic). jesus laid down his life for his friends and his mission yes but what was his mission and who were his friends?

suffering expiates blood doesnt expiate

my dog is so so cute

super mario galaxy is a 10/10 game with a 5/10 movie

let's all be bhaktas together :)

speaking of blood jesus doesnt save by some magical property blood has to save lest humans attempt to have their sins expiated by shedding their own blood or heaven forbid the blood of another being. imo he saves by the willingness of God to be gracious onto those who understand their own predicament and Gods unique position to deliver them by suffering in their stead.

why would anyone eat blood thats so messed up

somehow I'm not so precious about dung cake fuel but I am very precious about blood

@lizzie yea I figured that was the joke

@lizzie me, a diaspora jew who would happily eat bread cooked over gomaya

I really wish we knew more about john the baptist and what he taught because he was clearly very popular but his cult was entirely subsumed and supplanted by christianity for good and for ill

and yet luke is super cool for having the most parables