@technolyze @sathariel I dont believe any of those things I think maybe you need to leave your echochambers

@sathariel you seem to think that I think everyone needs to believe in jesus or theyll go to hell for ever because jesus saves. I dont believe that I believe that all beings will return to God one day and that there are many paths to do it and that yeshua bhakti in the bhava of God as savior is one of them

@technolyze @sathariel okay I guess every believer who is more than a dabbler is a fundamentalist now, even those who believe multiple religions are revealed or people who dont believe in scriptural infallibility like me. you can criticize me for liking tarot cards but I havent been agnostic in years, and my religion when I was agnostic was a toxic amalgamate of chaomagick and thelema and the most arrogant sort of advaita vedanta. just go back to telling me to kill myself.

@technolyze @sathariel lmao how could I be radicalized by trads if I never was in their echochamber? the only christians ive ever interacted with seriously are catholic or non-white. I'd argue that your exposure to a predominantly evangelical form of christianity has predisposed you to seeing "christofascists" everywhere. you seem to think that belief in the life of an incarnation or avatara is the stuff of religious extremism, am I an extremist for believing that krishna really did kill demons and dance with the gopis? if you want to know my beliefs ask my beliefs because prots would consider me an idolator, dont troll me to determine my beliefs. its beneath you.

@sathariel sole fide is toxic I agree but any belief that advocates for a devotion to God including devotion to God in the bhava as savior is one that leads to final beatitude. "God suffered for you out of pure love so love and believe in Him", I see nothing but love of God in this.

@technolyze @sathariel honestly in your last post it seemed like your ideology was entirely based on jesus saying father why have you forsaken me and "take this cup from me" and now it seems like it really is based on that. jesus preached that the greatest commandment is to love God with all your heart so that really can't be reconciled with your assertion. highest dharma isnt to love one another because others have your back when God doesnt (which is in an inversion, God has your back when others dont and many of jesuss neighbors were cruel to him) its to love all beings with an even eye, seeing God in them and them in God. also the resurrection was a very early christian belief and I'd argue if it had not happened christianity wouldnt have taken off so much as a successful sect in light of it challenging judaism in so many ways. the first ending of mark has the women find the tomb empty. everything in mark after 16 verse 8 is added sure.

@sathariel why are you so mad about this is the question

@technolyze @sathariel thats just secular humanism though. secular humanism has never led to liberation, if you want that become a mahayana buddhist.

@sathariel thats a pretty simplistic rendering of jesuss mission he didnt just have firm faith in God in the face of suffering he actively wanted others to take up their own cross and suffer with him, abandoning all worldly ties for the highest dharma of love of God and eachother. and his suffering was a suffering that freed others from the bondage of their sin by their bhakti in him as an avatara. a lot of historic Christian mystical thought involving ecstatic states involves focusing on christs passion and sharing in it with him. again, devoting your suffering to God is an ultimate act of submitting to the will of God. its not masochism.

@sathariel you gotta be more specific. if youre talking about karma then Indian thought has pretty complex theories about it. but "dharmic conduct brings pleasant results but adharmic conduct brings bad fruit including suffering" is one of the few things agreed upon by everyone. there is debate about action vs inaction but I'd argue the bhagavad gita settles it.

@lebronjames75 God is too merciful to damn anyone eternally take the infinite grace pill

@subnetter @djsumdog @sarvo the phone part of my phone isnt working right now so I couldnt use signal

@sathariel sorry what? saying suffering expiates is just basic karma theory, and theres nothing masochistic about devoting ones suffering to God (sattvic and beyond the gunas). it is the opposite of masochism (tamasic). jesus laid down his life for his friends and his mission yes but what was his mission and who were his friends?

suffering expiates blood doesnt expiate

my dog is so so cute

super mario galaxy is a 10/10 game with a 5/10 movie

let's all be bhaktas together :)

speaking of blood jesus doesnt save by some magical property blood has to save lest humans attempt to have their sins expiated by shedding their own blood or heaven forbid the blood of another being. imo he saves by the willingness of God to be gracious onto those who understand their own predicament and Gods unique position to deliver them by suffering in their stead.

why would anyone eat blood thats so messed up

somehow I'm not so precious about dung cake fuel but I am very precious about blood